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AMD Reintroduces FX Brand for High-End Processors and Platforms at E3

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  1. seronx

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    All new Gaming Evolved titles will support hexa-octos from AMD(they are optimized for it)

    :pimp:

    Cray XK6 - Accountable Flops with 500K "Interlagos" BD Cores: 50 PFlops
    X2090 GPU - 20.47PFlops
    Opetron 6200 - ????PFlops

    Made it simple math

    The answer you come up with

    x1000000 (times)

    /500000 (divide)

    You then have GFlops per core

    GFlops is 1:1 with Gips

    It takes 2 modules from interlagos to perform as 1 zambezi module

    http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/desktop-cpu-charts-2010/Gaming-Left-4-Dead-2,2433.html

    http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/...ance-SiSoftware-Sandra-2010-Pro-ALU,2408.html

    http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/...e-SiSoftware-Sandra-2010-Pro-GFLOPS,2409.html

    Left 4 dead 2 is a bad example since it does everything by 2s

    2 cores-4 cores-8 cores

    http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/desktop-cpu-charts-2010/Cinebench-11.5-Multi-threaded,2407.html

    I'll put cinebench in since it is a multi-threaded app that can do any number of threads
     
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    That has absolutely no relevance because Llano isn't competing against Zambezi, they both cater to 2 completely different crowds. Saying Llano will cannibalize Zambezi's profits if they get Zambezi out at the same time is just...not smart.
     
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    cadaveca My name is Dave

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    It's about the amount of fab time they have. OEMs want the mobile chips, and Dirk got fired for not making mobile and netbook chips a priority, in January. How quick everyone forgets.

    Bulldozer is ready; there was/is no delay. This has been a fact since they fired Dirk, that mobile chips come out first. If GloFo had more fabs, Desktop chips would be out too, but they don't, so AMD must wait.
     
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    Agree,

    And I can't remember where I read it, but the 'delay' is apparently a flip-flop. The server procs got pushed forward, the desktop procs got pushed back. High End desktops, while being close to my heart, are a very small portion of the chips that Intel & AMD sell.

    Server procs are high profitability and mobile units have very high volume/demand in the current climate. If you can make Llano *or* Bulldozer and you already have a hard time meeting demand for Llano, I think the choice is clear.
     
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    It is Llano -> Zambezi -> Interlagos

    and amount of yield and production rates do not lead to the release date

    Zambezi could actually have 3x the amount of Llano right now but it doesn't mean Zambezi is going to release earlier than Llano

    :cry:

    Llano is taking all Sempron -> Phenom II markets (80% of the Desktop market of AMD)

    FX is taking Phenom II BE market and pushing farther into the Workstation (Desktop/Server) CPUs (20% of the Desktop market of AMD)<-- and dying
     
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    All previous release info I could find, that stated launch NOW, was prior to Dirk getting the boot. Once Dirk was out, new timelines had to be developed, people had to discuss with OEMs what they wanted, and product profitibility needed to be measured. This takes some time, and when it was done, AMD clammed right up about Bulldozer. I'll say around march.

    But even so, Dirk's firing should have been a shot across the bow of any ship carrying Bulldozer towards launch. Thing is, since March, mobile and Fusion chips were being minted, and to me, right now, Bulldozer is taking it's place @ the fab.

    This "delay" was a long time coming, and should have happened in like September. The board @ AMD waited for Dirk to make a move, and he didn't, so they turf'd him, and then set everything in motion, the way it should have been from day one.

    So of course there are bulldozer chips floating around. But they've also been out in the wild for some time now, as far as I can tell.

    Oh, and AMD, if you read this, please send me a chip or 3. Since I understood what was going on, I can haz cookie??? :laugh:
     
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    pointless

    utterly pointless. same old crap from AMD, more cores for your money but they are slow as hell...oh and they are not as value priced as they used to be" Anyone tell AMD no games require a CPU with more then four cores and none will until 2013 at the earliest (new consoles).

    the FX-4 needs to compete against the i5-2400. the FX-6 need to compete against the i5-2500 in real world benchmarks. Instead AMD needs an eight core CPU (that costs $70 more) just to compete against an intel i5-2500k in 1-2 pointless synthetic benchmarks. :shadedshu

    Intel has the performance crown but AMD could at least say it had the value crown. With the new Intel SB CPU's, AMD has lost that and putting out CPU's that have little demand (eight cores) is a fast track to losing even more market share (not good for consumers).
     
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    in 128bit mode @ same clocks (Any non-256bit AVX)
    FX-4000 = i7 2600K

    in 256bit mode @ same clocks (256 AVX)
    FX-8000 = i7 2600K

    FX-4K loses in 256bit mode because of the lack of 2 FPUs

    FX-4 = 2 FPUs FX-8 = 4 FPUs
    i7 2600k = 4 FPUs

    So, for now AMD did a massive jump A HUGE MASSIVE jump they are now only 6 months behind once they release Bulldozer to consumers


    Then you have to understand Zambezi goes to Komodo in the same month the next year
     
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    I saw the server/desktop flip-flop bit here: http://semiaccurate.com/2011/06/02/bulldozer-delayed-and-not-delayed/

    Big grain of salt (I'm usually better at filtering out Charlie's 'facts')
     
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