AMD Releases ATI Catalyst 10.7 WHQL Software Suite

[alexsubri]

So ...does the 10.7 drivers giving a lot of bugs and crashes? Any FPS drops in BFBC2 or any other games???

 

[fochkoph]

Hmm everything has been working dandy for me with 10.6. Great FPS in BC2, 157 core idle and 400 media. Though I did just have my first ever CTD in BC2. Now I'm thinking about trying 10.7.

 

[Mussels]

OK. So, I basically put the system back to stock, after OS install.

All three monitors are connected, but only "generic" vga driver is installed. As far as the OS is concerned, it doesn't know who ATi is...no registry keys are anything(killed OS a couple of times removing the wrong entries, but was worth it, IMHO)

First, I install chipset/southbridge driver.

Reboot. Reboot again.

Next up is the driver package, and after double rebooting from that, the "Profile" package is installed.

Finally, I install Hydravision(altohugh this step isn't important).

Then the monitor driver.

Then I create the Eyefinity group.

OpenGl and QuickTime both cause the cursor to corrupt, 10/10 times. It will also randomly corrupt...haven't been able to figure all causes out yet.

To Uninstall, I basically do the reverse, but with one extra step...

First, I disable Crossfire.

Then I disable the Eyefinity group.

Uninstall monitor driver.

I then uninstall the profile package, and then reboot.

Next I uninstall using the Uninstall manager, and before rebooting, I go through the registry and remove leftovers, as well as going through the HDD to delete leftover files in various other places.

Then the next driver goes on, after a fresh boot.




EDIT: Cursor pics.
http://forums.techpowerup.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=37154&stc=1&d=1280250718
http://forums.techpowerup.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=37155&stc=1&d=1280250718
http://forums.techpowerup.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=37156&stc=1&d=1280250718

i used to have that same cursor problem all the time running dual monitor. used to occur a lot in company of heroes. never did find a fix.

 

[cadaveca]

So ...does the 10.7 drivers giving a lot of bugs and crashes? Any FPS drops in BFBC2 or any other games???

BFBC2 performance is up a bit, it seems like. HOwever, as others have said, smoke and stuff seems to be rendered much better, greatly adding to teh visual look.

i used to have that same cursor problem all the time running dual monitor. used to occur a lot in company of heroes. never did find a fix.

What sucks is that it can happen(and fix itself) at any time. 3D, 2D, doesn't matter.

 

[Mussels]

BFBC2 performance is up a bit, it seems like. HOwever, as others have said, smoke and stuff seems to be rendered much better, greatly adding to teh visual look.



What sucks is that it can happen(and fix itself) at any time. 3D, 2D, doesn't matter.

i found that moving it to the bottom right corner of the screen (which was the border between my two monitors) and wiggling it rapidly would trigger the fix most often.

 

[cadaveca]

Yeah, that only works on some drivers. It's so very odd... But yeah, that works.

I've even pulled the cards and tried in another system..I still get the cursor issue, all three of my cards cause it, and only in Eyefinity. Crossfire doesn't matter...


Nor does Crossfire cause the BFBC2 CTD. It makes it happen far mroe often, but I cna trigger it on a couple of maps using UAV, other times it seesm to almsot be a kick from the server or something.


:shadedshu

The last time I didn't have this issue, Crossfire and Eyefinity didn't work together. So it seems whatever change they made to make the two work together, causes the issues...but then...not everyone has the problem.


I'm really not happy with my cards, I guess. It's only upsetting, though, becuase I tossed the extra cash on three monitors, so now I feel like I gotta use them...:shadedshu

 

[mdsx1950]

Again does the driver only affect Bad Company 2?

Because i don't give a hoot about the game anymore lol.

 

[cadaveca]

Again does the driver only affect Bad Company 2?

Because i don't give a hoot about the game anymore lol.

It seems particle effects are rendered better in everything, smoke, fog, etc all looks better...I've tried about 10 games since installing, and each seems to look a bit better.

However, I have noticed that Anisoscopic Flitering quality has dropped a notch or two.

These apply to all apps, not just BFBC2. Really, I don't think any changes were specific to BFBC2, although load times are now back to where they should be.

 

[mdsx1950]

It seems particle effects are rendered better in everything, smoke, fog, etc all looks better...I've tried about 10 games since installing, and each seems to look a bit better.

However, I have noticed that Anisoscopic Flitering quality has dropped a notch or two.

These apply to all apps, not just BFBC2. Really, I don't think any changes were specific to BFBC2, although load times are now back to where they should be.

Thanks and any Crossfire issues? I see your running dual 5870s.

 

[cadaveca]

Thanks and any Crossfire issues? I see your running dual 5870s.

You know, I haven't really had any Crossfire issues for some times now. The introduction of teh app rpofiles has made it so that newly-released games can get a profile quite quickly.

OpenGl is a bit problematic...10.6 seems to work better for that(in respect to Crossfire, singlecard seems OK).

 

[mdsx1950]

You know, I haven't really had any Crossfire issues for some times now. The introduction of teh app rpofiles has made it so that newly-released games can get a profile quite quickly.

OpenGl is a bit problematic...10.6 seems to work better for that(in respect to Crossfire, singlecard seems OK).

I installed it on my 5750 on my 2nd rig. It seems really good. But i'm still having doubts installing it on my main rig since i'm not running Crossfire but Quadfire lol. I think i'll wait for some other people with 5970s to give it a go.

 

[cadaveca]

Well, I cna say that driver cpu load seems to be less, so it's using the gpus better, at least in my case. I could only surmise that the same may translate through to 4 gpus, but in my opinion, 8x pci-e 2.0 isn't enough bandwidth for 4 gpus in Crossfire. 2x Cypress is good for 2560x1600, and three and 4 gpus doesn't work for eyefinity, so I think you should give 'em a try and see. The image quality is hard to turn away from...

But at the same time, I'm also wondering ifthis isn't jsut my own personal thing, or if everyone see the difference as well...

Try it and let us know!

 

[streetfighter 2]

I used RBE and did a method 2 increase of AOD OC limits for my HD 5830. I'm currently using CCC 10.5 and I'm concerned about updating to 10.7 because the new drivers may not recognize my card because of the modified GPU BIOS. Anyone have any experience with this?

I've also encountered the odd mouse corruption which was mentioned by cadaveca (et al.) except I was using only a single card and no amount of wiggling fixed it. I still have no way of telling when/if it will occur and when/if it will ever stop.

(Read on to hear my continuing HD 5830 saga . . .)

Even more uncanny is an error I experienced with the one-off HD 5830 drivers based on CCC 10.3. After restarting my computer to swap a SATA cables I booted up and was immediately greeted by most unprecedented artifacting. Within 30 seconds of getting to the Windows 7 desktop the screen would be largely obscured behind a brilliant collage of artifacting. After several restarts I somehow managed to launch Portal, the Valve game, and to my surprise I could play it with a minimum of artifacts but when I quit and returned to the desktop I was in the same surrealist state as before. I went into safe mode and manually reinstalled the drivers but still encountered the same problem. So I went back into safe mode and by some miracle of god ATI had just released CCC 10.5 that very day, which I installed and it has worked damned skippy ever since.

That would be the end of it but... Well it wasn't completely flawless, it was damned skippy. The card defaulted to 600/1000 in game (without overdrive) as opposed to 800/1000 (which is what it was supposed to be). Besides that issue, I never once saw the card hit the golden 157/300 at idle. I started OCing my card anyway and soon discovered RBE and gave it a whirl, not because it could fix my broken clocks but because I'd hit the limits of AOD and I really hated the AMD GPU Clock Tool. So I did a method 2 increase of the overclock limits, which worked and had the added benefit of fixing my default clocks (now, properly, 157/300 idle and 800/1000 in games).

My question in regards to my saga is this: How, for the love of god, is an inexperienced user supposed to figure this **** out?!?!

 

[avatar_raq]

I used RBE and did a method 2 increase of AOD OC limits for my HD 5830. I'm currently using CCC 10.5 and I'm concerned about updating to 10.7 because the new drivers may not recognize my card because of the modified GPU BIOS. Anyone have any experience with this?

It'll be recognized as long as you did not change the device ID in the bios, which I bet you didn't !

I've also encountered the odd mouse corruption which was mentioned by cadaveca (et al.) except I was using only a single card and no amount of wiggling fixed it. I still have no way of telling when/if it will occur and when/if it will ever stop.

Are you running eyefinity?

My question in regards to my saga is this: How, for the love of god, is an inexperienced user supposed to figure this **** out?!?!

He will learn if he wants to be a PC gamer, by reading in TPU and other tech sites, or he may switch to the dark side and buy a console We all were noobs once!

 

[Mussels]

i just tested a blu ray disk with VLC 1.1.1 and these drivers - very impressive. took a minute or so to load (as does powerDVD) but once it had, playback was smooth and used % CPU.

Seeking was also instant, which is NOT the case in powerDVD - works very well.

 

[Baum]

i would like to add this to my noti for vlc playback
does it still accelerate Flash?
And did anyone use mobility modder on this? (Win 7 x64 Mobility HD4650)
10.6 feels like heating up my GPU insanely, cleaned my fangrill and everything but didn't help it clocks it more aggresivley... a saw that in GPU-Z and GPUTool_CTP1.exe clock transition is crazy fast :-(

 

[streetfighter 2]

It'll be recognized as long as you did not change the device ID in the bios, which I bet you didn't !

Correct. I did not modify the device ID.

Are you running eyefinity?

Nope. Single monitor on a computer with a single graphics card. Everywhere else I've seen this glitch reported it has been in a multi-monitor setup.

He will learn if he wants to be a PC gamer, by reading in TPU and other tech sites, or he may switch to the dark side and buy a console We all were noobs once!

True, however if he or she knows me personally and has my phone number they'll be bugging the hell out of me (instead of engaging in the difficult process of learning).

 

[eidairaman1]

i would like to add this to my noti for vlc playback
does it still accelerate Flash?
And did anyone use mobility modder on this? (Win 7 x64 Mobility HD4650)
10.6 feels like heating up my GPU insanely, cleaned my fangrill and everything but didn't help it clocks it more aggresivley... a saw that in GPU-Z and GPUTool_CTP1.exe clock transition is crazy fast :-(

For my card to work with any of the newer AGP drivers I have to use mobility modder on this laptop

 

[TheLaughingMan]

With Mussels comment, I may update to these drivers for the VLC hardware acceleration alone.

 

[Meizuman]

The VLC acceleration is good, but I prefer Media Player Classic... Well, maybe I'll use the VLC only for HD material.

 

[AphexDreamer]

So gaming wise is this worth the update?

 

[eidairaman1]

The VLC acceleration is good, but I prefer Media Player Classic... Well, maybe I'll use the VLC only for HD material.

I still use WMP with KLite Codec Pack

 

[TheLaughingMan]

So gaming wise is this worth the update?

From what I gather, no, not really. Unless you are running Crossfire, you will get next to nothing from this update.

Sum it up so Far:

Pros:
* VLC acceleration is nice,
* Crossfire improvements....are improvements
* minor bug fixes for Eyefinity

Cons:
* Some issues with Eyfinity have been addressed
* Overclocked GPU's done by users are more sensitive in 10.7 (stick with 10.4a seems to be the overwhelming choice for manual GPU OC's)

 

[Meizuman]

OMG! This thing heats up my memory past boiling point in a matter of seconds! Goes to 110 C less than a minute with furmark (same thing with NFS Undercover).



Guess I have to rethink the memory cooling...

EDIT: With 10.6 numbers were below 90 C

 

[Mussels]

With Mussels comment, I may update to these drivers for the VLC hardware acceleration alone.

it works really well - even on legitimate blu ray disks (and my god, is it better than powerDVD10 for that)

until this combo, i have NEVER seen a bluray disk played with lag free seeking.

The VLC acceleration is good, but I prefer Media Player Classic... Well, maybe I'll use the VLC only for HD material.

MPC-HC is my weapon of choice, but it cant play BR.

I still use WMP with KLite Codec Pack

Ewwwwwwies. why do people use K-lite? its les terribleh