1. Welcome to TechPowerUp Forums, Guest! Please check out our forum guidelines for info related to our community.

AMD Roadmap Shows 6-core and 12-core Opteron Processors

Discussion in 'News' started by malware, May 8, 2008.

  1. malware New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 7, 2004
    Messages:
    5,476 (1.51/day)
    Thanks Received:
    956
    Location:
    Bulgaria
    In a briefing today AMD disclosed a conservative road map for 45nm server processors using six and twelve cores that will gradually start to ship starting from Q1 2009. The new processors will be manufactured in a 45 nm process that will be introduced with the Shanghai quad-core later this year. Shanghai will deliver performance boost of about 20% over Barcelona thanks to the new process, the doubled overall cache size and the 800MHz DDR2 memory controller. In the second half of 2009, AMD intends to ship a single-die 6-core Socket F (1207) processor code-named "Istanbul". Offered for two- and four-socket systems, the chip will likely utilize AMD's HyperTransport 3.0 technology and increased shared L3 cache from 2MB to 6MB. In two years time from now AMD is promissing a completely new platform. Called the "Maranello" platform, it will bring new 6-core "Sao Paulo" CPUs with 6MB of L3 cache, as well as the dual-die 12-core "Magny Cours" processor with 12MB L3 cache. Both processors will be built in 45nm, with DDR3 memory support and HyperTransport version 3.0 interconnect. AMD will couple these CPUs with motherboards that use its own RD890S and RD870S northbridges as well as the SB700S southbridge.

    Source: TG Daily
     
  2. btarunr

    btarunr Editor & Senior Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2007
    Messages:
    28,705 (11.16/day)
    Thanks Received:
    13,667
    Location:
    Hyderabad, India
    Oh snap. 20% performance boost over Barcelona?

    AMDoomed.
     
  3. panchoman

    panchoman Sold my stars!

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2007
    Messages:
    9,595 (3.61/day)
    Thanks Received:
    1,200
    i hope thats a 20% boost per core ....
     
  4. btarunr

    btarunr Editor & Senior Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2007
    Messages:
    28,705 (11.16/day)
    Thanks Received:
    13,667
    Location:
    Hyderabad, India
    "per core" isn't mentioned so it has to be a whole comparison. All it said was Shanghai being 20% faster than Barcelona (which anyway is way slower compared to Harpertown (its current generation competitor)). So unless AMD comes up with a CPU technology that performs 60% better than the current Barcelona/Agena/Toliman, it will never be able to give a high-end product and we'll continue to shell-out $1500 for a QX9770 or worse still, $1300 for a dual-core X5272.
     
  5. panchoman

    panchoman Sold my stars!

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2007
    Messages:
    9,595 (3.61/day)
    Thanks Received:
    1,200
    so each core they add is making it 10% faster.. that sucks.
     
  6. das müffin mann

    das müffin mann New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2007
    Messages:
    3,759 (1.48/day)
    Thanks Received:
    335
    Location:
    Appleton, WI
    12 cores just seems rediculous, whats the point?
     
  7. panchoman

    panchoman Sold my stars!

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2007
    Messages:
    9,595 (3.61/day)
    Thanks Received:
    1,200
    great for servers though.. lots of processing power
     
  8. Urbklr

    Urbklr

    Joined:
    May 16, 2007
    Messages:
    2,346 (0.86/day)
    Thanks Received:
    247
    Location:
    Nova Scotia, Canada
    20%....AMD, your killin me here, your killin me:(
     
  9. panchoman

    panchoman Sold my stars!

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2007
    Messages:
    9,595 (3.61/day)
    Thanks Received:
    1,200
    +1
     
  10. pt

    pt not a suicide-bomber

    Joined:
    Mar 11, 2006
    Messages:
    8,981 (2.85/day)
    Thanks Received:
    208
    Location:
    Portugal
    any vectorial program and multitasking wil ltake use of it :)
     
  11. das müffin mann

    das müffin mann New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2007
    Messages:
    3,759 (1.48/day)
    Thanks Received:
    335
    Location:
    Appleton, WI
    true i just think its getting rediculous now, while a small minority of programs will utilize it, most apps wont, thats what i was thinking when i said whats the point ;)
     
  12. lemonadesoda

    lemonadesoda

    Joined:
    Aug 30, 2006
    Messages:
    6,259 (2.10/day)
    Thanks Received:
    966
    :shadedshu AMD 1969-2008

    R. I. P.
     
  13. sheps999

    sheps999 New Member

    Joined:
    Feb 27, 2007
    Messages:
    173 (0.06/day)
    Thanks Received:
    22
    Location:
    UK. Where it's always lovely and su-...no, never m
    It was good while it lasted. I think I'll keep my Athlon for a while, though.

    *hopes that AMD have at least something up their arse collective sleeves*
     
    Last edited: May 8, 2008
  14. magibeg

    magibeg

    Joined:
    May 9, 2006
    Messages:
    2,000 (0.65/day)
    Thanks Received:
    203
    You won't be saying that once we get real time ray tracing in games :D
     
  15. das müffin mann

    das müffin mann New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2007
    Messages:
    3,759 (1.48/day)
    Thanks Received:
    335
    Location:
    Appleton, WI
    you may be right on that:D, who knows i may even be able to afford one of these by the time that happens, but seeing how its only gunna be a 20% increase, i think i may have to go intel once again, but hey they still might pull something out of there ass, right? maybe? hopefully...for their sake...:ohwell:
     
  16. rampage

    Joined:
    May 31, 2007
    Messages:
    1,050 (0.39/day)
    Thanks Received:
    69
    Location:
    Port Fairy, Victoria, Australia
    20% boost :( ,considering alot of people are saying why go quad core dual is more then enough what are they going to do when these 6/12 core chips come out???? spontaniously combust ?
     
  17. panchoman

    panchoman Sold my stars!

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2007
    Messages:
    9,595 (3.61/day)
    Thanks Received:
    1,200
    that better not happen or the consumer will be royally fucked till ibm can release their cell cpus to our market or sun can give us quantum processors.
     
  18. Conti027

    Conti027

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2007
    Messages:
    1,382 (0.49/day)
    Thanks Received:
    92
    Location:
    Edmonds, Washington
    i use intel but i so hope AMD doesnt go under.
     
  19. WarEagleAU

    WarEagleAU Bird of Prey

    Joined:
    Jul 9, 2006
    Messages:
    10,797 (3.57/day)
    Thanks Received:
    546
    Location:
    Gurley, AL
    This just sickens me to see all you naysayers and stuff on here condeming amd and the like.
     
    eidairaman1 and Kei say thanks.
  20. adrianx New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 9, 2008
    Messages:
    324 (0.13/day)
    Thanks Received:
    22
    Location:
    Bucharest ROMANIA
    bad new for me

    I buy 3 days ago a 9850 BE


    :(
     
  21. L1N9u15T New Member

    Joined:
    May 4, 2008
    Messages:
    1 (0.00/day)
    Thanks Received:
    0
    Location:
    Online
    I dont know - 20% per-clock, with higher clockrates and lower power draw... thats nothing to shake a stick at. It will still be a decent chip.
     
  22. echo75 New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 11, 2008
    Messages:
    456 (0.19/day)
    Thanks Received:
    46
    Location:
    Denmark
    tbh Amd at the moment and its immediate forseable future doent seem very bright but i hope they come up with something coz competition is what is keeping the market favorable for us consumers. Trust me if AMD goes under intel wil monopolize the situation and charge rediculus prices, not to mention they will slow down with making better processors coz they would only have themselves to compete with.
     
  23. Kei

    Kei

    Joined:
    Mar 3, 2008
    Messages:
    2,122 (0.88/day)
    Thanks Received:
    618
    Amazing what some people fail to realize...

    Why are "common" people even worrying about this, it's NOT for you thus it seems stupid. These are for a market you have nothing to do with...anyone here actually using a server motherboard (besides those running servers...but then again really how big is yours?) or 2 processor boards?

    I HIGHLY doubt that and system specs of course show that we're not. Why condemn a product that has nothing to do with you and is not aimed at you. Just because something makes the news it doesn't mean it's news for you...

    I hate seeing things like this, same for the Intel crazy cores processors why are people even worrying about what they're doing unless you're actually in THAT very particular market. Crazy...just crazy

    /common sense rant (though I guess there is no such thing as "common" sense anyway)

    K
     
  24. MrMilli

    MrMilli

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2008
    Messages:
    216 (0.09/day)
    Thanks Received:
    35
    Location:
    Antwerp, Belgium
    I think Shanghai will compare favorable to the current Xeon platform.
    Most people here are comparing to much Phenom with C2Q. Server market is a completely different market.

    You should check out these articles first to know what i mean:
    http://it.anandtech.com/weblog/showpost.aspx?i=426
    http://it.anandtech.com/IT/showdoc.aspx?i=3162&p=1

    In the first article you will see that most Xeon X73xx's are clocked at around 2.4Ghz. Only one is clocked higher. So there is no enormous clock advantage like Intel has on the desktop market.

    In the second article you will see that a 20% performance increase is all AMD needs. In HPC it will even get a serious lead.

    If AMD is lucky and Nehalem doesn't come too soon (or Shanghai too late), it can have good 1H-2009 in the server market.
     
    Kei says thanks.
  25. imperialreign

    imperialreign New Member

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2007
    Messages:
    7,043 (2.65/day)
    Thanks Received:
    909
    Location:
    Sector ZZ₉ Plural Z Alpha
    just a thought - the news report only mentioned a 20% increase with Shanghai . . . it made no mention of what we could expect with Istanbul
     

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guest)

Share This Page