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I'm in the middle of preparations to switch from my current AMD chip and AM3+ board to an Intel chip and Z87 board. I've decided to go with an i3-4160 due to budgetary circumstances, but will upgrade to an ulocked i5 in the future, hence the Z87 board. At anyway, I've been doing some googling and found some handy tutorials, but I'd like to get everyone's input here before doing anything else.

The tutorials I've read use two different ways of preparing a PC for a motherboard upgrade - one uses a program called Paragon Active Restore, and the other method uses a built-in Windows tool called SYSPREP. Has anyone used either method here? Which one would be the safer and easier of the two? Are there any other things I need to do before swapping parts? I've already backed up things like my browser bookmarks, documents, etc., but I'm worried about things like my games, especially the ones I got as part of AMD's Gold Reward for getting a 280X. Will I have to download these again? Will I have to re-install other programs like ccleaner, etc. as well?

Thanks in advance!
 
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Best to just do a clean install. Download the games again and the programs reinstall. You can just uninstall the drivers and just plug the drive into the new board and then reinstall the Intel drivers but really its a pain and the clean install is just better all around

Why Z87? Why not Z97 and be ready for Broadwell
 
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If you want to move an HDD to another machine is best to sysprep it. It'll return the install to a fresh state (removes drivers and SIDs) while keeping the installed software.

Windows key > cmd > right click "Run as adminstrator" > cd sysprep > sysprep.exe

In sysprep dialog that opens, choose System Cleanup Action as Enter System Out-of-Box-Experience (OOBE), selectGeneralize, select Shutdown on "Shutdown Options" > click OK

After the PC turns off install the disk on the new PC.

Since your old user profile already exist, Windows won't accept your normal username, but instead you have to create a new temporary user. When the login screen appears, choose your old user account to login and delete the temporary account.

Take in mind that if you had an OEM install it will become inactivated as OEM installs are tied to the motherboard. Retail installs shouldn't have a problem. Even if you have an OEM install you should be able to activate using the automated phone tool. Also take into account that certain software (like Corel suites) tie activations to a hardware hash so they might freak out on the new PC.


Still a fresh install would be the preferred option but if you have tons of data and no immediate means to backup it, sysprep will do fine.
 
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I've never used it but isn't Sysprep for new systems only?
 
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Why Z87? Why not Z97 and be ready for Broadwell
seconded if a Z87 can handle it a Z97 will be better and future proof, also you can find some good board at a decent price (ie: ASUS Z97-A, ASRock Z97 line or the MSI/Gigabyte gaming line)
 
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I've never used it but isn't Sysprep for new systems only?

Used to prepare a clean base image for any PC. Yes manufacturers use it to create fresh images for all workstations, but it's perfectly viable to do a "faux" fresh install. Downside is you have to put an awful lot of information in. We used it at work before WSUS and SCCM came about.
 
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I've never used it but isn't Sysprep for new systems only?

Jetster i used it reasonly switching from Z87 to Z97 chipset in Windows 8.1 bcs it wasn't really happy with just uninstall all chipset drivers and so on, it still had trouble shutting down properly, reboot worked fine and start up, but not shutting down.

So did a Sysprep bcs i was too lazy to reinstall and it works just fine, my main system at home runs smoothly no problems.
 

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I'm in the middle of preparations to switch from my current AMD chip and AM3+ board to an Intel chip and Z87 board. I've decided to go with an i3-4160 due to budgetary circumstances, but will upgrade to an ulocked i5 in the future, hence the Z87 board. At anyway, I've been doing some googling and found some handy tutorials, but I'd like to get everyone's input here before doing anything else.

The tutorials I've read use two different ways of preparing a PC for a motherboard upgrade - one uses a program called Paragon Active Restore, and the other method uses a built-in Windows tool called SYSPREP. Has anyone used either method here? Which one would be the safer and easier of the two? Are there any other things I need to do before swapping parts? I've already backed up things like my browser bookmarks, documents, etc., but I'm worried about things like my games, especially the ones I got as part of AMD's Gold Reward for getting a 280X. Will I have to download these again? Will I have to re-install other programs like ccleaner, etc. as well?

Thanks in advance!
Windows 7 is remarkably well behaved with new hardware. I literally connected the HDD to the new mobo and turned it on, where it found all the new hardware and either installed the drivers itself or let me do it afterwards and no blue screens. I've done it more than once too, without any problems (watch out for IDE/AHCI mode switching). Yes, you're supposed to use something like sysprep for migration, but in practice for home use it doesn't matter.
 
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I'm in the middle of preparations to switch from my current AMD chip and AM3+ board to an Intel chip and Z87 board. I've decided to go with an i3-4160 due to budgetary circumstances, but will upgrade to an ulocked i5 in the future, hence the Z87 board. At anyway, I've been doing some googling and found some handy tutorials, but I'd like to get everyone's input here before doing anything else.

The tutorials I've read use two different ways of preparing a PC for a motherboard upgrade - one uses a program called Paragon Active Restore, and the other method uses a built-in Windows tool called SYSPREP. Has anyone used either method here? Which one would be the safer and easier of the two? Are there any other things I need to do before swapping parts? I've already backed up things like my browser bookmarks, documents, etc., but I'm worried about things like my games, especially the ones I got as part of AMD's Gold Reward for getting a 280X. Will I have to download these again? Will I have to re-install other programs like ccleaner, etc. as well?

Thanks in advance!

By the sounds of it you've already made up your mind.

But consider that in some scenarios you may lose performance going from a an FX 6100 to i3-4160. The financial cost of an i3-4160 with a socket change seems bizarre if you can drop in an FX 8 core and you'll get more performance for your money, for less money. At least get the i5 if you want to change sockets.
 
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By the sounds of it you've already made up your mind.

But consider that in some scenarios you may lose performance going from a an FX 6100 to i3-4160. The financial cost of an i3-4160 with a socket change seems bizarre if you can drop in an FX 8 core and you'll get more performance for your money, for less money. At least get the i5 if you want to change sockets.

I agree, I'd just stick with the FX-6100 and save up until you have enough money for a decent z97 board and an i5-4690K. Especially since z97 boards aren't really that expensive, a good one can get had for under $150.
 
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@ GreiverBlade and Jetster: The reason I chose Z87 is because I don't really care about Broadwell or M.2 storage. I got my Z87 board for $99, on sale from $120, a Gigabyte G1 Sniper Z5S. :)

@newteki1 and Dent1: Sorry to say, my 6100 blows compared to even a lowly i3-4160. And according to others who've helped me here on other questions I've had, the i3 still beats out an FX 8 core. Besides, the upgrade path on the AMD side is non-existent; AM3+ is virtually a dead socket now. At least there's an upgrade path with the Intel. The games I play demand stronger single threaded performance, which the AMD lacks, hence why I decided to switch platforms. :)

To everyone else: It seems like using Sysprep is the way to go, then. Thank you for your help. I'd like to keep this thread open in case I come across any problems.
 
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@ GreiverBlade and Jetster: The reason I chose Z87 is because I don't really care about Broadwell or M.2 storage. I got my Z87 board for $99, on sale from $120, a Gigabyte G1 Sniper Z5S. :)

@newteki1 and Dent1: Sorry to say, my 6100 blows compared to even a lowly i3-4160. And according to others who've helped me here on other questions I've had, the i3 still beats out an FX 8 core. Besides, the upgrade path on the AMD side is non-existent; AM3+ is virtually a dead socket now. At least there's an upgrade path with the Intel. The games I play demand stronger single threaded performance, which the AMD lacks, hence why I decided to switch platforms. :)

To everyone else: It seems like using Sysprep is the way to go, then. Thank you for your help. I'd like to keep this thread open in case I come across any problems.

The FX 6100 would outperform the i3-4160 in majority of tasks, with the exclusion of gaming. And even in gaming the deferential wouldn't be enough to justify spending $200+.

As far as the FX 8-core, the gaming portion would be virtually the same. Most games will get exactly the same frame rate, with the odd 0-10 FPS swing in the direction of either processor on a specific game. But considering the FX 8 core would destroy the i3-4160 more than convincingly in everything else makes its an unquestionable better choice.

Realistically you are paying $200+ for the privilege of the same FPS or up to 10 FPS more or up to 10 FPS less on specific titles, whilst compromising performance on future games and as well as compromising on less general performance in all other areas non-gaming.

Knowing Intel, they will change sockets before your next upgrade anyways.
 
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@Gmr_Chick are you still using 2x5850's for your gaming? If so, then I would suggest upgrading there first- a single 7870/270X or a 660Ti will beat those cards at half the power usage.

Your other option is to move from a Bulldozer to a Vishera- Vishera really makes a difference that you can feel.

Either upgrade could cost you as low as $100 (depending on whether you look for used stuff) and you won't have to mess around with the OS swap.

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@Gmr_Chick are you still using 2x5850's for your gaming? If so, then I would suggest upgrading there first- a single 7870/270X or a 660Ti will beat those cards at half the power usage.

Your other option is to move from a Bulldozer to a Vishera- Vishera really makes a difference that you can feel.

Either upgrade could cost you as low as $100 (depending on whether you look for used stuff) and you won't have to mess around with the OS swap.

My $0.02

Err...I don't have 2 5850 GPUs, Norton. You must have me confused with someone else. :wtf: I have a 7790 in my rig currently, but will be swapping it with a 280X when I make the CPU and mobo swap. It's been purchased for a while, but I wanted to wait to put it in once I have everything else; all that's left is the CPU. :)
 

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Err...I don't have 2 5850 GPUs, Norton. You must have me confused with someone else. :wtf: I have a 7790 in my rig currently, but will be swapping it with a 280X when I make the CPU and mobo swap. It's been purchased for a while, but I wanted to wait to put it in once I have everything else; all that's left is the CPU. :)

My bad, was looking at someone else's system specs apparently :oops:

Will stand on my other comment though- Piledriver/Vishera is definitely a better experience when compared to Bulldozer.

Good luck with your build!
 
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Will stand on my other comment though- Piledriver/Vishera is definitely a better experience when compared to Bulldozer.

Think the OP is under the impression the i3 will beat the FX 8-core convincingly enough to justify the platform change and spending $230+???

newtekie1, yourself and myself have said its a bad idea. The OP has already made up her mind. No amount of logic or fact will persuade her otherwise.
 
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Sorry to say, my 6100 blows compared to even a lowly i3-4160. And according to others who've helped me here on other questions I've had, the i3 still beats out an FX 8 core.
The FX 6100 and i3-4160 are clocked about the same, but Intel will show you a decent bit better efficiency per clock (and therefore, like you mentioned, stronger single-threaded perf.)
If I try to bring logic in to the mix, I'd want to say that the relatively high price doesn't justify the change in performance and I'd probably try to rekindle your overclocking efforts for your extra performance. Also, that the FX-6100 will beat the i3 in anything even remotely multithreaded.
With all that said, in practice, I'm looking at a similar move myself. Mainly, I'm looking for stronger single-threaded performance. I'm happy with my FX-8350 at 4.8GHz. The FX does everything I ever ask of it quite nicely. There's absolutely no practical or logical reason why I'm looking at moving, just that I'm doing it more in a hobby perspective to see how things look when they're tinted with Intel blue. Also, want to move to nVidia, but that's only because my ambient backlight doesn't play well with AMD.

I think I said this in a previous thread, but if the move to Intel makes you happy, go with it. Happiness is the most important factor here. :toast:
 
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I think I said this in a previous thread, but if the move to Intel makes you happy, go with it. Happiness is the most important factor here. :toast:

As Ricky Nelson said,..."You Know You Can't Please Everyone,..........So You Got To Please Yourself"
 
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My bad, was looking at someone else's system specs apparently :oops:

Will stand on my other comment though- Piledriver/Vishera is definitely a better experience when compared to Bulldozer.

Good luck with your build!
I will agree with Norton here. A cpu upgrade to a fx8350 would do wonders for you and you eill be glad you saved money and did it. I run a 8350 in my main rig and won't look back. It does all I need and then some. That 8350 with the 280x will give you the boost your looking for. Just make sure your PSu is strong enough.
 
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I will agree with Norton here. A cpu upgrade to a fx8350 would do wonders for you and you eill be glad you saved money and did it. I run a 8350 in my main rig and won't look back. It does all I need and then some. That 8350 with the 280x will give you the boost your looking for. Just make sure your PSu is strong enough.

I have the FX-8350 and it works fine. But I also got a i5-4690K recently, so the 8350 is going on the block. The i5 part is that much better. IDK about an i3 though.
 
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I will agree with Norton here. A cpu upgrade to a fx8350 would do wonders for you and you eill be glad you saved money and did it. I run a 8350 in my main rig and won't look back. It does all I need and then some. That 8350 with the 280x will give you the boost your looking for. Just make sure your PSu is strong enough.
That would be my recommendation too, but I think OP already has the Z87 board purchased and just waiting for a CPU. Also, OP expressed disinterest in overclocking in a different thread, which I think the FX lineup needs to remain competitive (although I agree a FX 83XX even at stock speeds would give better return on investment).
Well, I take the overclocking bit back. Stock vs stock, AMD has better performance per dollar (iirc). The ability to overclock even the lower end and midrange parts just sweetens the pot, imho.
I have the FX-8350 and it works fine. But I also got a i5-4690K recently, so the 8350 is going on the block. The i5 part is that much better. IDK about an i3 though.
My Pentium G3258 reminds me of my first car. Perky and nimble for day to day driving, but slightly useless when trying to overtake on the freeway.
(Day to day = web, gaming and anything single-threaded, overtake on freeway = 7-zip and benchmarks)
 
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. I've decided to go with an i3-4160 due to budgetary circumstances, but will upgrade to an unlocked i5 in the future
Why not wait a month or two and go straight for the i5, hell even if you wait 3-4 months and then get the i5 is better than this way, unless you plan to reuse the i3 later. BTW I don't think an i3 is better than a FX-6100 in multi-threaded performance, maybe in single -threaded performance.
 
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just in case there isn't muche a difference between 6300/8320/8350 in reality but they are not on par with a i3 but rather with a i5 4670

i would recommend stretching a bit more the waiting time and get a i5 4690K (the best bang for bucks would be the 4670K also)

Why not wait a month or two and go straight for the i5, hell even if you wait 3-4 months and then get the i5 is better than this way, unless you plan to reuse the i3 later. BTW I don't think an i3 is better than a FX-6100 in multi-threaded performance, maybe in single -threaded performance.
exactly what many here said (i had a 6300 and now a i5 4690K)
 
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just in case there isn't muche a difference between 6300/8320/8350 in reality but they are not on par with a i3 but rather with a i5 4670

i would recommend stretching a bit more the waiting time and get a i5 4690K (the best bang for bucks would be the 4670K also)


exactly what many here said (i had a 6300 and now a i5 4690K)

Pretty overwhelming. Everyone has now advised against an i3 upgrade. Only time will tell if she listens.

OP keep us updated.
 
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