AMD to Sample 32 nm Processors Within H1 2010

[btarunr]

There's a very wild rumor that the GPU will be derived from Redwood (400 stream processors). Looking at Redwood's die-size at 40 nm, and Propus's die size at 45 nm, a mashup between the two on to a 32 nm die doesn't look all that big.

 

[1Kurgan1]

There's a very wild rumor that the GPU will be derived from Redwood (400 stream processors). Looking at Redwood's die-size at 40 nm, and Propus's die size at 45 nm, a mashup between the two on to a 32 nm die doesn't look all that big.

That would be quiet an impressive little chip if that was the case.

 

[qwerty_lesh]

I'm nubbing out here, help me realize what i'm missing.
Wheres the level 3 cache?
Wheres the new powerful processing architecture to take on nehalem.

I sure as hell hope AMD has these things in mind for the fusion series.

 

[OneCool]

I'm nubbing out here, help me realize what i'm missing.
Wheres the level 3 cache?
Wheres the new powerful processing architecture to take on nehalem.

I sure as hell hope AMD has these things in mind for the fusion series.

There is alot of things wrong with your entire post bud.

Do some more searchin

 

[pjladyfox]

if AMD really wants a huge takeoff with the new chip they need to work with devs very close i.e. sending out platforms and having a good support on the soft/hardware side

if thats not the case, AMD will be in the same spot as Intel is with its integrated gpu, graphicscore just for the graphic but not for apps

+1 on this.

The biggest reason that consoles dominate the market for gaming is due to the fact that NONE of the integrated GPU's can run a game worth a darn. You combine this with the myth that "PC gaming is expensive" and you can see why we've been relegated to second-class citizens as far as gaming goes. If AMD can put out a chip that matches or exceeds the Clarkdale 660's GPU across both the desktop and mobile platforms, and manage to sell it at a cost that makes it too irresistible to pass up, then we may see a resurgence of PC gaming again.

For those saying "Integrated graphics?? LOL! L00zers!" are not helping on this. We need to get more people back to the PC for gaming otherwise you can rest assured we'll get more of the following:

a. DLC that nickles and dimes you for every frigging piece of content. Take Dragon Age where it got in your face about it during the game which is why I never picked it up.

b. Online only gaming service, like what Ubisoft announced, that forces PC users to stay online to play their games compared to consoles.

c. Console ports of titles where the field-of-view is locked to 60.

I could go on even further but I think you get the general idea. At the rate this is going we're either going to have to learn to accept gaming systems like the one from Ubisoft, become console gamers, or just give up PC gaming entirely.

 

[btarunr]

I'm nubbing out here, help me realize what i'm missing.
Wheres the level 3 cache?
Wheres the new powerful processing architecture to take on nehalem.

I sure as hell hope AMD has these things in mind for the fusion series.

L3 cache made way for the iGPU. To compensate, L2 cache per core is 1 MB, total chip cache 4 MB.

Bulldozer is expected to be sampled late 2010, expected in 2011.

 

[DrPepper]

L3 cache made way for the iGPU. To compensate, L2 cache per core is 1 MB, total chip cache 4 MB.

Bulldozer is expected to be sampled late 2010, expected in 2011.

I'd swap L3 for an integrated GPU anyday.

 

[Hayder_Master]

new AMD core i3 cpu

 

[GSquadron]

Why is this bulldozer so interesting? I have made not enough research maybe...
Anyway can give specifics of it?

 

[WarEagleAU]

Looks promising and seems they are out ahead of original projections for their 32nm processors. I smell a comeback??

 

[GSquadron]

Even if amd releases the bulldozer i dont really think intel is going to waste time as the best this bulldozer can do i think is the core i7 980x and nothing more. And take it with a BOX OF SALT cuz the best amd processor can barely reach core i5-750 , imagine to reach core i7 980x. Amd needs to raise the prices of their processors to admit they are not afraid of intel and that is why intel raises the prices up to 1k $. Find a better strategy amd cuz like this only fusion is the best idea till now

 

[Zubasa]

Even if amd releases the bulldozer i dont really think intel is going to waste time as the best this bulldozer can do i think is the core i7 980x and nothing more. And take it with a BOX OF SALT cuz the best amd processor can barely reach core i5-750 , imagine to reach core i7 980x. Amd needs to raise the prices of their processors to admit they are not afraid of intel and that is why intel raises the prices up to 1k $. Find a better strategy amd cuz like this only fusion is the best idea till now

AMD also sold $1k processors in the past dude
It is the aftermath of buying out ATi and fault on the management part that put AMD this far behind Intel and nVidia.

 

[GSquadron]

Oh, well do you know how much amd bought ati? And why did amd buy it?

 

[Zubasa]

Oh, well do you know how much amd bought ati? And why did amd buy it?

Oh they payed a fortune for ATi, $5.4 Billion that is
It was technically a merge, but in effect AMD owns ATi now.

 

[Super XP]

I'm nubbing out here, help me realize what i'm missing.
Wheres the level 3 cache?
Wheres the new powerful processing architecture to take on nehalem.

I sure as hell hope AMD has these things in mind for the fusion series.

Forget about Nehalem, AMD already lost that round ever since Intel released that monster. Now we are talking about Intel's next gen vs. AMD's upcoming next gen.

If we are talking about AMD's FUSION core which is based off the Bulldozer design, then from what I've seen is the CPU & GPU are going to be monolithic and both will "share" an L3 cache. Each Bulldozer module (2 CPU's) will share a L2 cache and so on. Let me find the link where AMD's own slides show this

Oh, well do you know how much amd bought ati? And why did amd buy it?

AMD bought ATI because INTEL has there own chipset, graphics etc. where as AMD had none of this. They relied on Nvidia's chipsets along with 3rd party chipsets.

Now that AMD has ATI and it's extremely smart Engineers they can develop smarter graphics & chipsets along with creating FUSION Cores. If it wasn't for buying ATI, Bulldozer as we know it today would have been different.

 

[inferKNOX]

OLEDs, all-in-one chips and affordable SSD's imho

Agreed. OLEDs, Cheap SSDs, AMD's & ATi's Fusion, Hydra & 3D becoming an open standard!
When all of them come into play, it will put us in a new computing age!

Looks promising and seems they are out ahead of original projections for their 32nm processors. I smell a comeback??

Never know, maybe AMD will do to Intel what ATi did/is doing to nVidia. ATi settled for knowing that their processing power is just plain lower so focused on features, nVidia became slack and ATi is now stomping all over them.
If AMD didn't buy ATi, in all likelihood, AMD would have have been crushed by the Intel's i-series + recession combo. ATi might just be AMD's saviour and together they might just pull a coupe on the powers that be.

 

[$ReaPeR$]

imo if they manage to use that APU as a coproccesor + handling physics , it would be very promessing

 

[Super XP]

Agreed. OLEDs, Cheap SSDs, AMD's & ATi's Fusion, Hydra & 3D becoming an open standard!
When all of them come into play, it will put us in a new computing age!


Never know, maybe AMD will do to Intel what ATi did/is doing to nVidia. ATi settled for knowing that their processing power is just plain lower so focused on features, nVidia became slack and ATi is now stomping all over them.
If AMD didn't buy ATi, in all likelihood, AMD would have have been crushed by the Intel's i-series + recession combo. ATi might just be AMD's saviour and together they might just pull a coupe on the powers that be.

Just in case for people that didn't know, AMD was suppose to buy NVIDIA but NVIDIA's CEO didn't want this unless he became CEO of AMD/NVIDIA. But IMO, thank goodness AMD didn't go that route, I think ATI was the better buy and now AMD has an awesome NEW CEO

 

[GSquadron]

Which year happened this?

 

[Super XP]

It was NVIDIA that may have took over AMD, but at the end the rumor was false and it was AMD that was going to buy NVIDIA, but they costs too much along with NVIDIA's CEO wanted to be the big boss
http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/cpu/di...D_Despite_of_Chances_to_Lose_x86_License.html
http://www.eetimes.com/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=206900811

Thank goodness AMD got ATI instead

 

[a_ump]

had no idea such thoughts had occured lol

 

[Kei]

I'm nearly at a loss for words on this one...if this were to come out remotely anytime soon I'd be ALL OVER IT! I've been really thinking hard about building a super low power (consumption not speed) box, and this is even better than having an IGP on the motherboard I think. This would be absolutely perfect for doing the daily tasks, movies, and anything else besides highest res games...which really isn't that much time in a day.

If I can put together a box that uses between 40-60W under normal usage without running a machine that's slow, and save my main rig just for more 'extreme' use....just wow. Heck, I've already got my main rig now down to 101-106W normal usage so I'm pretty certain it's possible.

Kei