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AMD "Vishera" FX-Series CPU Specifications Confirmed

Discussion in 'News' started by btarunr, Aug 27, 2012.

  1. NHKS

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    that 'word on the street'(abt AMD's high end cpus) may have spread faster than BD's gaming capabilities, but apparently AMD has denied it according to this info and quoting AMD's reply:
    A high end desktop-CPU market with just Intel as player would be just boring..
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    Well if that is the case, no more AMD stuff for me. :laugh:
    I see no reason at all for them to stop doing dedicated desktop cpus. Since these cpus come from the server parts, i find it silly for them to don't make the extra cash.
    I see bad management again for AMD. APUs are not ready for really high performance yet.
    I see AMD sinking and fast. If they have the same mindset for servers as well, then they will sink for sure.
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  3. Frick

    Frick Fishfaced Nincompoop

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    BD for servers review.

    You do know pretty much every Intel CPU have integrated GPUs as well don't you? Even the 3770k has it.
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    dont be silly APU's already possess way more computational performance then Cpu's, the software stack decides what it will use, and that isnt the gpu part often enough, but Amd ,Arm ,Qualcom ,also indirectly associated but still intel and nvidia are all moveing towards a hetrogeneouse future with all cpu's configured with an on die gpu/GPGPU unit, thats ALL of them ARE makeing the same thing ,APU i believe is trademarked by AMD, but they are all makeing them and soon Arm will have a high performance APU in its IP stack, as will AMD, if you arent buying that shit then you wont be upgradeing your pc at all soon then.


    APU server parts are already in the market place afaik.
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    Reviews, and they have horrible advertising still. It looks like something a middle school child would make to tout the benefits of them being class president.
    10 Million points folded for TPU
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    YAYYYYYYYY I passed up on BD and am glad i did... Im looking at you 8350 and hoping for a ~$200 price tag!

    I run a PII x4 955 @ 3.99Ghz day in day out and this MIGHT actually be an upgrade if it overclocks well! HerEs to hoping! (and hoping arma3 is more CPU optimized!)
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    So, can anyone explain the presence of APU-specific features (AVC, "dual-graphics" [distinct from CF for AMD], eyefinity, etc.) for the FX CPUs that don't have a GPU on-board? Smells fishy to me.
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  8. AvonX New Member

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    You cant compare those things with a dedicated cpu and a discrete graphics card for gaming.
    Way more powerful than APU's currently.
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    Yes two dedicated pieces of hardware would be faster.

    How ever no where near as efficient power wise, production wise and space wise. Oh and lets not forget performance for price where they would own two dedicated pieces of hardware.


    Pretty much every device in the future will be a combination of CPU/GPU AMD are right when they say the future is fusion.
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    You do know that the 3770k is way way faster than any AMD dedicated CPU or APU don't you?
    That is the main difference. I think you may have misunderstood me.
    The point that i want to make here is: Even if AMD has no plans to do dedicated cpu's they still have to innovate and push harder to be faster. Currently they really don't have those things in place. So its a big risk from my point of view to go full APU from now because they are not ready for that yet.
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    The only thing that Intel needs to do is to improve their integrated gpu.
    I think they have already improved on that lately if i am not mistaken.
    So AMD will be miles behind again soon enough in "CPU/GPU"
    They still have to improve allot on the CPU side.
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    Ah yes I did misunderstand. But they have a lot of caching up to do (if they want to compete at the higher end) anyway so I'm not sure I agree with you. The APU technology is maturing.

    Indeed they have. The HD4k GPU isn't that bad. It's not as good as AMD's offerings but it was a step forward.
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    It's not a risk (Intel went full APU even tho the GPU still lacks a lot), you need to remember that it is a lot cheaper to make only one chip, AMD had to produce both Llano (which is based on the old stars core) and BD based chips.
    They want to combine those two so that the production cost drops, and that is planned for the FM2 socket.

    Don't forget that Trinity's GPU is still based on the VLIW4 architecture, when they introduce a GCN based APU it will bring a lot better performance (and great compute power!) and efficiency.
    And looking at the Trinity benchmarks it's actually a great improvement compared to Llano.
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    The thing is neither AMD or Intel truly care about competing on the high end or low end, they only care about generating revenue.

    The high end segment doesn't exist anymore in gaming like it used to. We've getting to a point where even a CPU from 2009 can play the latest games well or a cheap £50 CPU from today is plenty. There really isn't any need to spend £200+ on a high-end CPU for gaming. The high end CPU gaming market is dying and APUs are putting the last nail in the coffin.

    IMO, in a decade or so there will only be APUs. And dedicated video cards will be reserved for the elite gamers whom want to SLI or CF their dedicated cards with their APU.
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    blah blah.

    I guess we will know what crap shoot this is when reviews are posted.
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    Sign me up for a 95w FX-4320 please. :)
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    Just like last time, not going to expect too much from AMD. Looking forward to reviews.
    Might even buy a Piledriver rig just to play with and overclock.

    As a side note, I recently played some games at a friends house (dude is an AMD fanboy trapped in the AthlonXP glory days) on his Bulldozer FX-8120 rig, and everything was just fine.
    If you don't measure the FPS on screen, you wouldn't know you were playing on an 'inferior' CPU. Everything was pretty smooth.

    Also, it doesn't matter how improved Piledriver may be if the Intel compiler still forces all non genuine-intel CPUs to run non-optimal codepaths.
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    You could be correct. If that is the case, i have a great idea but i don't have the cash to do it. :laugh:
    I was thinking of an all in one system. A system which would be a console for games and a pc at the same time. APU style. :laugh:
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    Exciting news, not for gamers....:ohwell:
    SB still wipes the floor with piledriver in games.
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    One Thing I noticed is Bd was marketed incorrectly. N btw Intle at time was still using unfair business practices hence antitrust cases

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    Been visiting the front page for any info like that on daily basis: finally some info, ffs! :laugh:

    Now all i need to know is when the FM2/1090FX mobos will be released. Here's for larger (16M?) L3 cache, real 10 - 15% performance improvements over BD & just about everything else BD lacked. Dreaming yeah, but you can't take it from me now, do you? :) :toast:
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    blah blah blah blah,..

    http://gmplib.org/pi-with-gmp.html
    http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2008/07/atom-nano-review/6/
    http://www.agner.org/optimize/blog/read.php?i=49
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_C++_Compiler
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    :laugh:
    :laugh: For the 1090FX mobos i think yes you are dreaming. :laugh:
    Even if they finally decide to do it, its still far away from now.
    Somewhere about near the end of 2013.
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    Yeah but the thing is AMDs graphics is better than intels graphics to the degree that Intels cpus are better than AMDs.

    So when the software catches up with the hardware they'll both offer decent performance with AMD theoretically having better compute power. ( so better for media creation, editing,rendering and gaming)
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    Who cares? Why is clockspeed the deciding factor here? If it pulls the same wattage who gives two flying shits if its clocked at 1ghz or 100ghz performance per watt is the only thing that should make any difference. If you think any differently maybe you should rethink things.

    Phenom I vs Phenom II with the increased clock speeds as long as we see a 10-15% jump it will be enough to compete in a middle of the road market. Seeing how GPU's continue to be the lag point for video gaming price point yet again will be a deciding factor for gamers.

    Hence why I have not bothered to buy anything that wasn't Phenom II based. I think everyone should remember the huge performance jump from Phenom I to Phenom II.

    When you use the correct programs to render BD does quite well. Weird how an Intel based rendering program favors well Intel. There is a reason AMD added certain things to its technology and it wasn't to continue using Intel styled shit.


    Now personally I don't understand why everyone is against AMD improving products and releasing new chips. You do understand that if it was an Intel only market we would not see improvements like we do now, prices would skyrocket etc...Just remember on release the Athlon X2 4200+ was $537 Intel was the same pricing. I am all for a "crappy" Piledriver chip for $200. Intel can keep its $500+ chips.
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