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AMD Working On Stripped-Down PlayStation 4 SoC for PCs

Discussion in 'News' started by btarunr, Feb 28, 2013.

  1. xenocea

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    Sorry no, it doesn't work that way.
     
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    AFAIK, SoC isn't related to low power consumption alone, nor performance. Like the guys said, stick a CPU, GPU, IMC, and any other chips/controllers/etc into one chip and it'll be a SoC -by definition- regardless of how much power it draws or how much flops it can crunch.

    ARM will still pwn the business as it currently has the best power consumption. But that's for the Mobile segment. A PS4 is more of a PC.
     
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    The PS3's RSX was actually based on the 7800GTX. But they cannot be compared direct just from GPU.

    The PS3 works a little different, with the Cell able to assist and aids the RSX which helps it to achieve somethings that the 7900GT couldn't.
     
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    Yup, exactly.

    If anything, it's slower: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RSX_%27Reality_Synthesizer%27

    This logic applies to consoles in general. That's why a HD7950 is not a good candidate to play "every PS4 port ever".
     
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    Yeah and after it was all said and done it was about as powerful as a 7900GT. The Cell doesn't magically make it a 670.
     
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    I never said the cell was comparable to high end pc. Re read my post.

    I was simply saying the Cell helps the RSX to achieve certain visuals that were not possible on the 7900gt alone. Gosh you guys are quick to judge.
     
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    The Cell's benefit to the 7600/7800 in the PS3 perhaps does allow it to achieve some things that a 7900GT could not, but not much.

    Essentially it appears that we agree regarding the point at hand (7950 vs. PS4), so I don't really understand why your jimmies appear so rustled.

    Also, nobody's judging anyone, except you with your ironically hypocritical assertion that we're quick to judge.
     
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    Care to evaluate what jimmies appear so rustled?
    And your judging me and coming to a conclusion that I'm instigating an attack.
     
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    This I agree.
     
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    Its not and I should have put a /sarcasm there.

    The 2 sources that were pointed out as I quoted only one had one sentence with SoC reference that was actually a mistake and refering to a APU.

    I dont know how someone makes the leap from an interview of stricly APU referances and goes on about SoCs. Making 6 referances to it. Thats what I was getting it.

    It be the first SoC (APU+/+/+/+/+/+/+/+)
    /sarcasm
     
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    Evaluate them? Ok, I'd say they're worth about $2.50.

    • I don't think you're "instigating an issue"
    • I would not need to judge you to decide that you were "instigating an issue"
    • Judging you would not be helpful in coming to any such conclusion
    • I'm not judging you, I don't even know anything about you

    Anyway, this is grossly unproductive, I'm unsubscribing from the thread.
     
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    Sorry I still don't get what you mean by the $2.50 comment
    And It was not my intention for any hostility.
     
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    Please for feel free to. No one is forcing you to read. :)
     
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    Quoting techreport:
    A normal CPU wouln't incorporate memory on die (other than its cache).
    Knowing that Sony isn't an x86 CPU manufacturer, nor a GPU manufacturer. I highly doubt what's in that chip would be any of both. Hence, conforming to the SoC definition. The source may have not labeled it as such, but it is.
    Now, from where I stand, neither btarunr nor the two sources are mistaken, the chip can be called either. As from what I know an APU is SoC.

    Sarcasm aside, I'm interested in knowing why you believe the APUs aren't socs...
     
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    You avatar is forcing me to read this thread...
     
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    APUs dont control all I/Os
     
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    Not sure if legal to fap or not. Age must be confirmed before target is acquired....over.
     
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    I agree with him. A SoC usually have a NIC and various IO (system on chip. An APU have a cpu and a gpu. It shouldnt be called a SoC imo.
     
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    Fair enough...

    Then all's left is whether the actual chip used on the PS4 is a SoC or not.


    So much for a welcome-to-tpu-party :rolleyes:
     
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    Just wait until the after party!
     
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    No specifics, but I'm going to predict that GPU as a 7750/70-level GPU. It would work pretty well. I just don't see them splurging for a 7800 series GPU and definitely not Tahiti.
     
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    Cape Verde XT (1.26 TFlops) would have to run at higher mhz to achive the 1.84 TFlops

    Pitcairn is more likely 1.7-2.5 TFlops
     
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    No fresh specs there, just what was already known, and wtf an soc this isnt, as I said many hours ago apu+nb+sb would be soc this is just another apu atm anyway .
    As ive said sony had input we don't yet know What though.
    Post 720 announcement these specs will expand imho
     
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    fkin' LOL :D
     

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