1. Welcome to TechPowerUp Forums, Guest! Please check out our forum guidelines for info related to our community.

Angry iPhone Users Calling for Class Action Lawsuit Over Latest Firmware

Discussion in 'News' started by zekrahminator, Oct 1, 2007.

  1. zekrahminator

    zekrahminator McLovin

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 2006
    Messages:
    9,113 (2.77/day)
    Thanks Received:
    321
    Location:
    My house.
    IPhone firmware version 1.1.1 did a particularly nasty trick on anyone who had unlocked it via software: it rendered the iPhone unusable on any network other than AT&T in some cases, and in others, it "bricked" them, rendering them useless. Discussions on Apple boards were quickly locked down, and now a community of angry users is planning on suing Apple. The small group did not specify how much they plan on suing Apple for, but chances are, Apple is going to settle out of court.

    Source: EnGadget
     
  2. von kain New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 13, 2006
    Messages:
    782 (0.26/day)
    Thanks Received:
    49
    Location:
    athens/greece
    although i really hate apple i fail to see why it's apple fault?
    they ware morons the first time they bought it then they cry because the price fall and now after they know that what they did was the least against the terms and condition they cry because they ware to stupid to understand that this is cracking they crack their iphone and update it

    all those things prove that most of the apple fans and users are stupid
     
  3. rhythmeister New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 17, 2005
    Messages:
    987 (0.27/day)
    Thanks Received:
    32
    Location:
    Belfast...N. Ireland mate!
    They took out a contract with a service provider NOT with CRapple; the phone belongs to the buyer and if they mod it so be it. If new firmware is forced onto the device without their consent then bricks it I don't see how that's the users fault.
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Oct 2, 2007
  4. jocksteeluk

    jocksteeluk New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 23, 2006
    Messages:
    1,457 (0.44/day)
    Thanks Received:
    46
    Location:
    The 13th room on the 13th floor of the 13th buildi
    at the end of the day they bought the phone under the agreement of it being locked top a specific network, if i buy a ps3 and try to hack it to play xbox games and it breaks it i then cant go to sony and say i am suing you because i tried to modify my device and now it doesn't work. the moral of the story is do not rush our to be the first wait till the specifications satisfy your needs.
     
  5. [I.R.A]_FBi

    [I.R.A]_FBi New Member

    Joined:
    May 19, 2007
    Messages:
    7,664 (2.72/day)
    Thanks Received:
    540
    Location:
    c:\programs\kitteh.exe
    exactly .. smart man there .. but i hate crackle ...
     
  6. nflesher87

    nflesher87 Staff

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2006
    Messages:
    4,499 (1.51/day)
    Thanks Received:
    487
    Location:
    Texas
    agreed, this is just whiney humans trying to make a dollar for breaking the rules...happens all the time and sadly a lot of the time people get away with it, for example the lady I saw at Wal Mart yesterday deliberately spill some ice cream and they take a huge spill on it in line and then cause a huge fuss, most likely intending to sue...people just annoy me to know end...
     
  7. Ravenas

    Ravenas

    Joined:
    May 24, 2007
    Messages:
    4,691 (1.67/day)
    Thanks Received:
    349
    Location:
    Tennessee
  8. Ravenas

    Ravenas

    Joined:
    May 24, 2007
    Messages:
    4,691 (1.67/day)
    Thanks Received:
    349
    Location:
    Tennessee
    Actually, lots of companies make their phones exclusively with one wireless provider (LG Chocolate with Verizon). If you were to somehow hack the LG Chocolate and change its service to AT&T I'm sure you would run into the same firmware problem and you would be out of luck.

    Some stupid people have to conform to having the latest phone before everyone else, but they don't want to pay 200$ to get out of there current wireless contract. In the end they figure out their "master" plan is flawed and they are out 600$, so now they look for someone to blame besides themselves.

    Some people are just plain stupid.

    :toast:
     
    Last edited: Oct 1, 2007
  9. ChaoticBlankness

    ChaoticBlankness New Member

    Joined:
    May 12, 2006
    Messages:
    492 (0.15/day)
    Thanks Received:
    8
    Location:
    A small crate floating in the Pacific..
    I hope most of you are kidding.. if I buy a product it's mine, not Apple's. I own it, and no terms and conditions are going to stop me from using it the way I want. I bought, it's mine.. it belongs to me.. why do you people not see this?

    What if you weren't allowed to work on your car, because it violates the terms and conditions? I'm not talking about warranty.. I'm talking about putting a new radio and the manufacturer decides that you shouldn't be able to drive that car anymore.
     
  10. panchoman

    panchoman Sold my stars!

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2007
    Messages:
    9,595 (3.48/day)
    Thanks Received:
    1,200
    apple did warn em. so idk how the people plan on winning the suit.
     
  11. hat

    hat Maximum Overclocker

    Joined:
    Nov 20, 2006
    Messages:
    17,140 (5.73/day)
    Thanks Received:
    2,167
    Location:
    Ohio
    Well, I agree that it's insane to lock a phone to one company, but Apple pretty much had the right to do so. That would be giving somoene money to go buy a gallon of milk and returning with a beer instead.
     
    Crunching for Team TPU More than 25k PPD
  12. panchoman

    panchoman Sold my stars!

    Joined:
    Jul 16, 2007
    Messages:
    9,595 (3.48/day)
    Thanks Received:
    1,200
    lol :laugh:

    at&t has been pressuring apple to reduce the amount of unlocked iphones for ages.
    at&t's been trying to file suits against people that unlock their iphones, etc. but they cant succedd cause the phone belongs to apple. but apple is in a contract with at&t to keep the service with at&t only.
     
  13. selway89

    selway89

    Joined:
    Jun 12, 2006
    Messages:
    395 (0.13/day)
    Thanks Received:
    23
    Not always...

    I wanted to sell a phone that was under contract from O2. Legally I couldn't as I hadn't finished the full 12 months, of which the phone was still been paid off.
    Not untill then had I paid for it fully and is now mine todo as I please.

    Speaking of which, any UK users may like to know ther the iPhone is coming to the UK on the O2 network.
     
  14. rhythmeister New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 17, 2005
    Messages:
    987 (0.27/day)
    Thanks Received:
    32
    Location:
    Belfast...N. Ireland mate!
    Of course you could've sold that phone, YOU own it not the network provider-you merely agree to their contract stating that you will pay £x/ month!
    I recently extended my Orange contract and got a W850i off them (when it was released at the start of the year) which I promptly sold on fleabay (I even told them I was going to sell it as soon as it arrived) as I liked my w810i better, but they didn't want to give me a lesser phone and better monthy rates :D
     
  15. rhythmeister New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 17, 2005
    Messages:
    987 (0.27/day)
    Thanks Received:
    32
    Location:
    Belfast...N. Ireland mate!
    I'll say it again, the phone is NOT crapple's property, they merely manufactured it. Yes people are stupid but what is MORE stupid is locking them down to certain networks so that they are not suitable for all interested parties :shadedshu That's capitalism for ya tho, the almighty dollar ain't it? :banghead:
     
  16. Ravenas

    Ravenas

    Joined:
    May 24, 2007
    Messages:
    4,691 (1.67/day)
    Thanks Received:
    349
    Location:
    Tennessee
    Your metaphor is way off, it's more like if you we're driving YOUR car (which you purchased from Apple) on ANOTHER PERSON'S property (Verizon Wireless's Network), knowing when you bought the car you couldn't drive it on their property.

    I mean you shouldn't drive on other peoples property without their permission anyway, it's just common logic.
     
    Last edited: Oct 1, 2007
  17. rhythmeister New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 17, 2005
    Messages:
    987 (0.27/day)
    Thanks Received:
    32
    Location:
    Belfast...N. Ireland mate!
    If you pay to use this other network they won't care what device you access it with :D
     
  18. newtekie1

    newtekie1 Semi-Retired Folder

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2005
    Messages:
    20,408 (6.08/day)
    Thanks Received:
    6,425
    You violated the TOU that you agreed to when you bought the iPhone, so you have no case. Sorry, you shouldn't have unlocked the phone.
     
    Crunching for Team TPU 50 Million points folded for TPU
  19. Ravenas

    Ravenas

    Joined:
    May 24, 2007
    Messages:
    4,691 (1.67/day)
    Thanks Received:
    349
    Location:
    Tennessee
    Either way, you violated the terms of the contract that YOU signed before buying. Like newtekie1 says, there is absolutely no arguement.

    The laws so far have allowed AT&T and Apple to do this. Therefore, there are no grounds for legal action.
     
  20. rhythmeister New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 17, 2005
    Messages:
    987 (0.27/day)
    Thanks Received:
    32
    Location:
    Belfast...N. Ireland mate!
    The contract is between the network provider and yourself, the iPhone is merely the carrot dangled in front of you to get your signature in this case...it is STILL your property to do with as you wish
     
  21. bassmasta Guest

    can someone check the terms of service? i bet there's something fun in there that says you own the phone, they own the software.
     
  22. Ravenas

    Ravenas

    Joined:
    May 24, 2007
    Messages:
    4,691 (1.67/day)
    Thanks Received:
    349
    Location:
    Tennessee
    I don't understand your point? Yes you may do with it what you wish, but that doesn't mean that Apple's firmware won't cut you off. That's the point of this thread.
     
  23. 3991vhtes

    3991vhtes New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 22, 2007
    Messages:
    2,786 (0.98/day)
    Thanks Received:
    121
    Location:
    My house.
    I agree w/ all 3 posts here.
     
  24. rhythmeister New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 17, 2005
    Messages:
    987 (0.27/day)
    Thanks Received:
    32
    Location:
    Belfast...N. Ireland mate!
    The point of the thread was to keep people upto date with the ultra fashionable iPhone. MY point was that the device in question is merely a selling point to hook people into a contract. The customer OWNS the phone and if crApple force a firmware onto it which bricks it then they should be made to pay for the device as it is paid for IN FULL by the network provider, via customers and probably subsidies, so crApple have no right to do this in my opinion :banghead:
     
  25. KennyT772

    KennyT772 New Member

    Joined:
    Dec 21, 2005
    Messages:
    3,585 (1.08/day)
    Thanks Received:
    103
    The firmware is a users choice to update, not a auto install. If it was an automatic update that would be one thing but it is the users choice. I see no grounds for a lawsuit however it does suck horribly for the owners who got bricked units.
     

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guest)

Share This Page