Discussion in 'Graphics Cards' started by trt740, Dec 11, 2007.
Depends on price but maybe since I have a home for the gt ahhhhg what is becoming of me
Yeah, it depends on the price. Tom, if you decide to sell your GT and buy the GTS let me know...I may be interested.
well since it was only 359 and I needed to buy a secound video card for the new 939 I will be building I went ahead and got one coming. went with evga so I can trade up when 9xxx comes out. perhaps by the weekend we can see if its worth it or not.
get em now before they r gone !!!
I picked up the MSI from Newegg at 6:00am.
Can't wait. Stock clock is 730, once I remove the aircooling junk and add it to my waterloop, I will be OC'ing this like crazy. Hope I can get the ram around the 1000Mhz mark. Which as I understand pretty much the limit for these memory modules. That will probably be the biggest gain for this card due to the limited memory bandwidth. Of course raw GPU Mhz can't hurt either.
well I'm weak bought a evga 8800 gts 512mb
I think they will sell out im going to just sell it on ebay in a few days. The person who was going to buy my 8800 gt went another direction and didn't buy my gt so I'm just going to keep my 8800 gt and sell the 8800 gts 512mb to the highest bidder once I have the market cornered.
FYI for people that have 4-post water blocks they will fit on these. You will just need to add Ramsinks to all the ram and voltage regs. At least you don't need to buy a new water block. My MCW60 will transfer directly off the x1900xtx to the 8800gts.
I'm not going to buy it the day it comes out, I'll probably wait until the new year and when prices have dropped.
I'm going to stick with my 8800 GTS 640MB.
IMO anyone with a GTS 640,GTX,Ultra, or GT..yeah no point in upgrading for such a small gain. Your cards are fine. But from a x1900 the 8800GTS G92 is twice as fast stock and = the power load/draw.
this is retail price they will go up
when it come to the gt this is how i look at it
512mb vs 640mb ill take 640mb
an 256bit memory or 320bit
as of rite now i am running 1 8800gts xxx vershion [the pipe lines can be unlocked in riva tuner] just havent messed with them alot yeat
other then the 74c it ran when i got it its a awsome card [after some mods it now hits 66c max]
an the gts cooler well looks like it actily does something i just laph when i see that 8800gt stock cooler its so thin no wonder ppl ar havin ishews sli.ing i know i wont when i get my seconed gts
if seen the benches for the gt8800 so its a lil faster big woop
but u cant tell me the extra 110mb ram an the extra memory bit.s do nothing
plus i remember the ti4200 days when the 64mb one was faster then the 128mb one but only till u put a heavy game on it
I wish you were right but your not the the gpu is redesigned and is faster than the 8800 gts 640 mb in both the 8800 gt and gts, plus the shaders start out 200 mghz faster and overclock alot higher. The 8800 gt is about 15 percent faster than the 8800 gts 640 mb and the 8800 gts 512mb is even faster. the 8800 gt can beat a 8800 gtx when overclocked even when the 8800 gtx is overclocked it still loses I know I've owned them both.
look at the clock on this bad boy
With a after market cooler I bet it does 850 core http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127314
That is the one I ordered. Once I add to my water loop I will let you know what the highest stable OC is for daily use. I am hoping for 850Mhz and I think its possible on water, maybe even higher.
Oh no you don't! My new w/c setup is coming, you will not beat me!!!
The new GTS is faster than the old one. So you'd rather have the slower card 'cause it has a bit more memory? okaaaaaayyy :shadedshu
Where in Rivatuner can you unlock the pipes exactly?
About to order a EVGA
Well it appears the 8800 gts 512mb is a very good card but that the basic 8800 gt at 249.00 when oced with a accelero s1 or other chaep after market cooling can match or exceed a 8800 gts even oced. they run neck and neck. It appears nvida made the 8800gt too good for business, but I still want one.
when u add the price of an after market cooler , u r better off going for a gts then , atleast thats how i try to logicamize it for me lol.
ps i bought the evga one , just to mess around with it , i like my CF setup way better.
na the cooler is still loud on a 8800 gts and performs about 20 degrees worse than any good after market cooler, and you can get 8800 gts as low as 249.00 plus 23.00 for a accelero s1 and thats a bunch cheaper than a 8800 gts 512. I bought one to play with and if my 8800 gt which does 750/1810/1033 doesn't sell well I will keep it and sell the 8800 gts because they will sell out and i'm gonna jack the price. Heck even if you buy a 8800 gt at 330.00 shipped including a cooler thats still better in some ways than a 8800 gts 512 at 375.00 shipped with the stock cooler from a money / performance stand point. All your paying for is 18 shaders and a better cooler. when you can get the same performance as the gts and save 50.00 or more and get a silent cooler. I'm just as guilty as the rest I simply wanted the top dog even if it is only a little plus I like to play with computers LOL.
Where have you seen a benchmark of any sort with aftermarket coolers on the GTS? I haven't found a single one...Since the GTS is as fast as a OC'd GT then it would make sense to me at least that a OC'd GTS will be even faster then a GT. Mine comes in factory oc'd at 730, i bet it will easily pass the 750Mhz mark with the stock cooler, in which case it will be faster then the GT. Then add in aftermarket coolers and it will be able to push even further.
here ya go
Even a maxed oced 8800 gts against a maxed oced 8800 gt it makes very little performance difference in most bench marks in other articles i've read the oced gt beats a stock gts alot. It like comparing two pieces of chocalate cake. this part of the article will intrest ya.
Even though the stock heatsink did a bang-up job of taming the heat of the 8800GTS, the Thermalright HR-03 Rev.A improves upon it in leaps and bounds. This was all done while lowering the overall acoustical footprint quite a bit by having the 90mm fan rotating at 1000rpm. The only downside of this setup is that any heat buildup will stay inside of your case instead of being exhausted out the back like the stock heatsink does.
It should also be noted that overclocks do not seem to be held back by the stock cooler and installing the HR-03 had no effect on how far I could push either the memory or the core.
next interesting part Conclusion
Writing this conclusion is a bit tough because the XFX 8800GTS 512MB Alpha Dog Edition presented me with such varying results, it is hard to really gauge it in any kind of light. If this card would have been released into a marketplace which was devoid of the 8800GT 512MB, things would have been a lot more clear-cut in terms of the price you pay for performance. Since the 8800GT 512MB has been on the market for the better part of 6 weeks now (albeit in limited supply) comparisons can’t help but be drawn to it at every turn. If we are speaking of pure performance and price comparisons, the difference between the 8800GT 512MB and 8800GTS 512MB is about the same we saw between the 8800GTX and the 8800 Ultra.With ATI seemingly content to release GPUs solely in the mid-range price category, Nvidia has been left with sole ownership of the high and ultra high-end performance crowns. Thus, we see another rehash of the 8800GTS moniker but this time in 512MB flavor. Say it with me: Competition good for the consumer. As usual, I have seen a mind-boggling amount of forum posts where ATI and Nvidia fanboys jealously stake out their territory while desperately hoping the other side will fail. It bears mentioning that without competition, the market begins to stagnate and we see snail’s-pace release schedules for high-end products. Without ATI making a concerted assault on the high-end market, Nvidia is able to release a succession of mid-priced cards without having to release a high-end card that will blow our eyeballs out through the back of our heads. While this may seem like it is benefiting the consumer (which it is to some extent) we are not really seeing any groundbreaking performance number here. Nvidia has now released one 8800-series card after another which has done nothing but confuses the customers and muddies the marketplace with their repetitive naming conventions.
That being said, I think that the XFX 8800GTS 512MB Alpha Dog is a success in terms of improving on a less expensive product and offering incredible performance per watt. Many people were expecting this card to be priced very close to or above $400CAD but XFX's card is priced at an appealing $375 and may go a tad lower as well. Not once does it falter and in many cases either beats or is a few frames per second slower than the almighty 8800GTX. This card also beats the 8800GT in every single test. It is also amazing to see the kind of performance Nvidia is getting out of these G92 cards considering they are somewhat hamstrung with their 256-bit wide memory bus. Indeed, the XFX 8800GTS 512MB is definitely one hell of a fast card but it shows that its 256-bit wide memory bus is an Achilles heel at higher resolutions. Another resounding quality of this card for the enthusiast community is how well the core responds to overclocking. Even though the memory is not all that cooperative when overclocking, the kind of performance the Alpha Dog Edition is able to output when pushed to its limits is simply mind blowing. It is also good to see that this kind of overclocking can be done on the stock cooler. Truthfully, XFX can only work with what they get from Nvidia and they did a bang-up job of making this card more attractive with the inclusion of their unique warranty and Company of Heroes.
While all these results are pretty impressive, those of you hoping for a $400 GTX-killer are going to have to wait a bit longer. The XFX 8800GTS 512MB Alpha Dog lags quite far behind the GTX when AA is turned on at higher resolutions and even suffers in some games when AA isn’t on at all. There is also the matter of an overly loud fan which will get on your nerves in pretty short order. The 8800GTS 512MB is positioned as more of a niche product for people who want the best performance possible outside of the power-hungry G80-based cards.
Don't get me wrong the 8800 gts 512mb is a good card I bought one. I think this is a very fair review.
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