Discussion in 'Games' started by fritoking, Jul 11, 2013.
pre-order is opened at game's official site
EVE Online puts out really nice trailers.
we're all frakin skinjobs!
I could have gone into a lot more detail on it, but I was trying to avoid TL : DR comments. lol
I would love to play ESO, but the monthly subscription model is a deal breaker for me. I don't need another monthly bill and I can't justify the expense given the amount of time I have to spend gaming. Maybe if they have a free trial period I'll give it look, otherwise I will pass on it.
Also, while a little side chatter on other games is fine, try to keep at least something in your post about the topic of the thread.
Late for beta test... Have no money to pay for monthly subscription... I'm depressed...
I guess I'll just have to dig up the old copy of Morrowind:GOTY edition and play for a while.
monthly subscriptions is what appeals me most to the game. with current number of retarded ppl in f2p games i strongly hope subscription to become a filter for wide masses of unpleasant persons that only life goal is to brake fun for those around them.
I have no problem whatsoever with the subscription based model. I played the original EQ for years paying monthly.
I just wish they would implement something that gave you limited time in the game per month for a less money (even though it is admittedly stupidly cheap compared to other forms of entertainment that some people pay for).
For $14.99 you get access to the game for over 700 hours a month. I'd like to see something like 70 hours of access (which is still more than I would play) for $1.49 per month.
That's a misguided opinion - paid games have the same amount of idiots at all time. That's why i stopped playing Guild Wars and Aion when they were still in their prime.
In my personal experience the best time to play any MMO is when it is still in stage of closed beta-testing.
There will always be people in games who are just out to spoil the fun for everyone else. Most developers these days who are serious about keeping the reputation of their game intact are dealing with it the best they can.
I think that Zenimax Online is going to learn that lesson real quick when players start to learn game exploits in ESO, and they will either take a serious stance on the issue or the game will tank.
You'd be doing yourself a favor..no kidding.
Why are we talking about EVE?
Mussels, did you play the beta in the end?
Yeah, got a hit from GamersGate as well Decent pre-order sweeteners.
I played the beta, it was really very good, i will be pre ordering myself asap.
I think they have done a good job. It really does have a kinda skyrim online feel to it, i am very much looking forward to its release.
that is a great idea. why dont you suggest this to zenimax. i would be interested from something like 350h for 10$ or 200 for 8$
well then somehow i have missed most of the crowd in the sub games i have played. ofc that dont mean it doesnt exist.
yap but most of all i like "any race in any alliance" from emperor edition. and if i dont get it on pre-order i will upgrade later for sure.
I'm not really sure about that. I have no desire to play as the imperials, but I hadn't seen anything that precluded us playing as the other races and alliances. Would like to see some definition about what races are available upon launch, and if you have to pay to open up additional races in a monthly subscription game.... I'm sorry, I'm used to WoW's subscription base (and RIFT, and a few others that followed). If I bought the game, I want to play all the content that is available upon release. That's what my monthly money is for. Expansions, I understand. But normal content? hmmm......
While ESO is not old school EverQuest, it's also not GW2. It doesn't have that flexibility. As far as MMO templates and progression models go, it's really no different than anything that we've experienced before. ESO is what I call a closed online RPG. You don't play for half an hour and come away having achieved something, something that open (like GW2) online RPGs have accomplished.
Which is why I cam flabbergasted that people are discussing time shared gaming for a title like ESO.
if i understood correctly what i have read and from beta session i toke part every alliance is made by 3 races. and if you like to play with curtain race you have to stick to alliance it take part and respectively if you like to play with curtain alliance you can select from 3 raced that take part in it. with emperor edition you take ability to play as imperial (or say it "neutral") and you can pick any race. then later you can join any alliance w/o race restriction to be applied. i guess once alliance is picked you wont be able to switch anymore but this way you wont be alliance restricted when you select class.
@newconroer So are you saying that you can't jump into ESO for a short period of time soloing (1/2 hour to an hour) and accomplish anything?
I think in contrast to other games, you might get a little more satisfaction within an hour or two, though I put that down to the fact that ESO is slightly different in some ways, and for a portion of the player base, will be fun for reasons other than simply progression - which is often the only thing left with modern MMOs.
However, the underlying style as I mentioned is still the same and ultimately, the game misses out on few key features of which I want to talk about but...NDA and all that jazz.
The best I can do to explain it, is reiterating what I've said in the past, which is that ESO is an online game with TES elements, not a TES game with an online mode.
In Skyrim or Morrowind, you would start playing with a plan, say a quest. And this time, yes, you tell yourself THIS TIME, I WILL FINISH IT. And why do you have to talk to yourself and almost have a monologue? Because last time you went completely off track.
So, off you go, to do your quest ..... four hours later, you've explored, adventure, slayed enemies, found loot and coin. You're on the complete opposite end of the world and you didn't do one part of your quest.
And you know what, you don't care! You just enjoyed yourself at your own pace, with no thoughts of other people and concerns for your relative progression.
ESO, is not that game.
Say no more ...
this was my reaction:
Rude!! I'm a ranger/archer/hunter at heart, always have been, so I'm a Bosmer. Getting stuck with the Aldmeri STINKS! I just wanted to shoot them all anytime I had to deal with them.. stupid racist, backwards, *grumble*....But I'd almost gotten used to the idea that if I was going to play, I'd just have to do it. Now I've got to consider paying extra?.... This game is starting to annoy me,....
well since in eso "classes" are quite relative and actually you can start with any class and at the end you can have completely different class i think you can give it a try with alliance you like and later to upgrade to imperal editon if you think you enjoy the game and you want to play it. in beta i made redguard dragon knight (or whatever was class named) and dark elf sorcerer and i didnt noticed siginificant impact of the racial perks to gameplay but i leveled to 6-7 lvl.
depends on what you mean by "accomplish anything". leveling in game is quest driven (at least in 2 starting zones) and considering that killing mobs gives you misserable 5-20xp when you need about 4-5k for lvl4->lvl5 you are actualy encouraged to do quests and explore cause like in skyrim while roaming countryside you can meet quest at any point and that is aside of loot/crafting mats you can find.
picking up quest is quite similar to skyrim. speaking with npc gives you quest goals in brif. if you like to know more you can explore dialog options you have, if you dont want to bother say "i'll be back" and run after compass marker. for half to an hour you can do 2-3 short quests or complite long quest line from start to end if you dont folow side quests. problem is that all quests stories are soo addictive (at least quests i have met) that you actually wont end with only 1/2 to an hour gaming (i wont for sure). if you are talking about lvling then with up to an hour at least at the beginning you will lvl rather slowly cause even quest give more exp then killing mobs they dont give so much xp that you get lvl after turning 2 quests. i havent played long enough to check if power lvling is possible so i cant say how things going when you reach continent (first 2 zones for redguard are on islands).
rcoon has lvl10+ toons may be he can share his impresions.
i havnt tried pvp or dungeoning but from what i have saw yes game is not skyrim but definitely it is TES game. you cant mistake it with wow, gw or other mmo game
So the base game is £50, includes 30 days and then you have to subscribe. This is a joke. But the joke gets worse.
The legendary edition is like £70 or something, gives you a race nobody else gets (lulwut?) and the rings of mara so you level up faster than everyone else.
I'm not paying £50 for the right to play an MMO that is also subscription based. I'm also not paying an additonal £20 to level up faster and have access to something everyone should have access to.
This screams "nobody is going to play our game in 6 months, so let's hope we can make a big pile of cash on preorders and initial game sales".
I intended to play and subscribe to ESO, after this news, I will not.
I really liked levelling in ESO, the quests are varied and fun, every class feels really nice. Some of the quests are literally EPIC and I was grinning the whole way through beta. I like most of the classes, although 2H dragon knight seems a little bit average, my wizard does twice as much damage at the same level. It is ten times more fun levelling than WoW, you can tell they put a lot of effort into the quests.
Like you said, quest lines are addictive. REALLY addictive. I went off on a wild tangent, ran around volcano, went into the past to discover how a dead guy banished a giant siege flesh golem, and did it myself with the aid of said past dead guy. The scale of quests is just amazing, and the stories are amazing. You'll also notice some of your choices in certain quests do actually affect the environment, to the point I caused someone to commit suicide, and a few hours later found her ghost wandering around the planes, somewhat angry I had told her the truth.
you can get it from continental amazon and save from change rate too.
Seriously, the game is great fun, i actually WANTED to level loads of characters, but until they revise their pricing strategy I will be boycotting. Not that it will make a difference.
how much do you pay for wow. check how much will cost you to get wow+all expansions till pandaria if you start palying it now. for game has 10+ years old graphics and they made burning crusade free just 2 ears ago.
eso sub rate is on pair with any current mmo that require sub and taking account my latest experience with f2p games i'd rader pay to get game with descent quality then i play rushed unfinished piece of shit full of bugs, clipping issues, fail game mechanics etc. etc. game and to wait for months or even years for fixes if they ever come.
restriction race/alliance comes from game story line and is used for reasoning of pvp story. yes it may not fit everyone personal preference for race+allinace combination but is has to be done cause otherwise pvp will be out of space.
eso is open pvp game like war and daoc they cant make game with 9 sides pvp as emperor throne competition would suggest so alliances are must.
havnt tried it myself but i am pretty sure you will be able to group with members of any alliance in pve dungeons and separation between alliances will be only in pvp.
i played wow after i have quited plaing war, i am playing neverwinter (i am asking myself why thou), world of tanks and i can assure you nothing can compare with open pvp in war, even purely pvp oriented game like wot
ESO is a singular base game, WoW and all its expansions is just that. The base game, plus a few years of extra content. Not that I play WoW anymore, too many kids.
I want ESO to be awesome, I'll wait until the base game cost is at a reasonable price before I attempt to play it. This high cost is due to consoles though. If it were PC only it would be £30.
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