I see it as, whats the point in taking sides, once you start doing that, the marketers have got you, its all good really, ive had a few mbpros and an imac, and im going to buy another one soon for a course im doing next year, that uses macs for graphic design. Big deal, i like there stuff, there are things about osx and apple hardware that sh*#it me, same as win too. At the end of the day, whatever makes you happy, stuff that left right paradigm of siding with one company, its a wank. Shame they are overpriced is the main thing i dont like, otherwise, they are good machines , tho not without issues too, as for lion, im not liking the idea of that much, seems like with every new iteration of the os, more control/options are taken away from the consumer, and its happening with win 8 too i bet, forcing people to use cloud storage solutions like with new itunes and all that, i dont want the "cloud" for my personal items like music/movies/docs, they are just fine on MY HARDDRIVE. technology is wonderful, but when it intrudes into our PERSONAL lives[especially when there is no "option"], its WRONG AND RUDE!