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  1. qubit

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    Lots of links in the article.

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    Pretty interesting info, thanks
     
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    When they can tell me what is at the bottom of the ocean, I will believe they can tell me what is going on 100 trillion miles away.
     
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    Ironically, it's sometimes easier to say what's happening so far away than closer to home, because of the nature of the problem. But I agree, there's always uncertainty in these sorts of findings, due to the indirect nature of detection.
     
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    What do they mean by the Milky Way's supermassive is inactive?
     
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    It means that there's no significant amount of material falling into it. Black holes can have vast rings of material around them as it swirls inwards. As it compresses, the friction causes intense heat and it glows powerfully, which can be detected with our telescopes.

    www.universetoday.com is a great site for all this kind of stuff. :)
     
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    trickson OH, I have such a headache

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    I wish the black hole in our galaxy would suck us up ! :rockout:
     
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    lol, love it. :laugh: :toast:
     
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    Nice info. Black and white holes observations are always useful even tho some lame asshead fucktards might say that they are far away and blah *yawns*.
    Earth (hence this life) was born from the cosmic energy, it's always interesting to know what happens beyond the borders.

    Btw what Movie Camera got to do with this? :confused:


    @DarkOCean who says that black hole causes death? Nobody knows what happens beyond event horizon.
     
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    lol yeah that would be sweet. Feel earth crumble slowly losing mass. Losing our atmosphere with it, making space visible in the middle of the day with that giant blackhole up there.. mass hysteria if you ask me :D. Thing would suck us so fast, everything would dissintigrate a few micro milli second. You wont feel a thing. No more problems :D
     
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    Ninja holes! Hidden by the ashes of one thousand planets! Sounds like the dialog from a bad Hentia film.
     
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    its not dragging mass into it and feading is what they mean but as ever in reality they have no clue as the light from said feading would not be seen on earth for a lot of years hence it could well be and they wouldnt know

    and as for observing white holes lmao, what are you on, hawking stated them as theory recently, whos got the pics come on show.
     
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    Black holes is also a theory. Whatever gets in black hole gets kick out of white hole. Such a perfect symmetry. The question is: where it ends ....
     
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    so is gravity, and evolution. if nothing else they are simply super-dense areas of space, and we can witness their interaction with matter around them. we know they exist.

    that part is much more theoretical. obviously nothing is destroyed but we have seen nothing that resembles a white hole that just spews matter from a linked black hole. those may not exist.
     
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    I lol'd so hard
     
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    yes there are so many models of the universe, physicists say that maybe time doesn't exist,
    that our space isn't 3D. Some say it's 10D (string theory) while others say it's 1D and there's also a group with theory that our universe is a hologram/illusion/simulator program ... you name it.

    Well that theory says white holes don't exist in our space-time. So we can't observe them. Just like black holes don't exist in that space-time where white holes are. Actually it's more complex than we think of it. Dark matter, dark energy, wimps, super-wimps ... etc. The more we know, the less we know. We can only build models and approximate them as much as we can.
     
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    that's why i said if nothing else. we can witness their interaction, so no matter what we know super dense areas of space exist. the rest is hypothetical conjecture.

    my point was alluding to this:
    it's a much less observable part of the theory, and as such "is much more theoretical" and "may not exist".
     
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    Very interesting point, just like heat death. However if space-time isn't "closed system" then second law of thermodynamics wouldn't be the same.
     
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    LOL . No I just think it would be cool to watch the solar system being sucked up then watch as this planet is taking into the black abyss :rockout:
     
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    good point. i would expect that to mean there WOULD be white holes in our universe though, albeit emitting energy from other universes.
     
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    Sagittarius A* is the nearest "black hole" to us and it is at the center of the Milky Way. I still think "black holes" are confused with solid fission stars (as opposed to gaseous fusion stars). Atomic decay causes them to leak high-frequency radiation, they're obviously very massive, and they're bright because gases still fuse and burn on the surface like a fusion star would (although not as bright as a traditional fusion star). They could even be the source of the background radiation attributed to the "big bang."
     
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    yeah, i confuse those two ALL the time ;)
     

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