ASUS 890FX Crosshair IV Formula Teardown

Reefer86 · Apr 29, 2010

it looks nice but once i installed in my case the crosshair faded into the background and it looked a little weedy. You can argue it doesn't, but until you have one in your hands you cant judge.

btw Erocker found that review, have a read of the review of at hardwareheaven of a few boards in one review, very nice read.

http://www.hardwareheaven.com/reviews.php?reviewid=964&pageid=2

also another great read is the article over at hardware canucks talking about the diffrence between 700 series and 800 series and the performance benefits.

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...s-890fx-chipset-evolution-am3-platform-2.html

anyways enjoy the read.

cadaveca · Apr 29, 2010

Reefer86 said:
also another great read is the article over at hardware canucks talking about the diffrence between 700 series and 800 series and the performance benefits.

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/foru...s-890fx-chipset-evolution-am3-platform-2.html

anyways enjoy the read.

HWC is quite biased. You should ask them why I was perma-banned. Should give you some entertainment. :laugh:

Reefer86 · Apr 29, 2010

you may say that but you can make your own view and just read it and figure if its bias or not and not make a sweeping statement.

cadaveca · Apr 29, 2010

Reefer86 said:
you may say that but you can make your own view and just read it and figure if its bias or not and not make a sweeping statement.

You bet. I never said them being biased was a bad thing..we actually need bias in reviewers to qualify other's opinions.

Honesty works wonders. :laugh:

cdawall · Apr 30, 2010

cadaveca said:
Yes, as it is at stock. Both are 2000mhz. But 2000mhz NB is really optimized for 1066 ram. To keep the timings you don't see optimized, you need to keep both in sync. You also need to set multis manually, or they will revert as close to 2000mhz as possible. ASUS plans on fixing it on thier boards.

Remember a few guys complaining that NB/HT multi reset to stock when pushed a bit on ASUS board? Now you know why.(I'm guessing here, but it makes sense).

790FX supports 2600mhz HTT @ default, as a minimum. 890FX can only do better. Check your mobo box...it says up to 5200MT HTT...

I have very easily pushed a cpu to a 3600mhz ht (7400 effective) and 890fx 5200mhz htt is the same as 2600mhz on 790fx the 790fx shows actual 890fx shows effective (ht is a double data rate clock)

Also the asus boards crashing to a 2000mhz ht is an error in the bios. Its on al am2/am3 boards they sell I have had the issue a lot myself pushing clocks on phase and dice

cadaveca · Apr 30, 2010

cdawall said:
Also the asus boards crashing to a 2000mhz ht is an error in the bios. Its on al am2/am3 boards they sell I have had the issue a lot myself pushing clocks on phase and dice

Yep. But they have identified the bug and should be releasing fixes soon.

There are ways around it...I've never seen it...scaling HTT is the one, apparantly. The bug causes the "compatibility" settings to be used rather than "performance", and the NB/HTT multi defaults to 10. "Performance" settings include a increased NB/HTT multi, to match BEMP modules and 1333mhz(2600NB), as you want NB speed to be approx twice the mem speed.

dumo · Apr 30, 2010

Reefer86 said:
The crosshair has been given the performance awards in alot of places, but the performance crown is still not found its home as other boards have got this award and also gold awards over the crosshair.

Imo, most new mobo from first tier maker (Giga and Asus) are all pretty good in term of components use, lay out and specs. The only thing that make a difference is Bios development...and Asus is on top oh the game. Just for CH IV alone they already issued 6 bios revisions including beta for testers.

cdawall · Apr 30, 2010

cadaveca said:
Yep. But they have identified the bug and should be releasing fixes soon.

There are ways around it...I've never seen it...scaling HTT is the one, apparantly. The bug causes the "compatibility" settings to be used rather than "performance", and the NB/HTT multi defaults to 10. "Performance" settings include a increased NB/HTT multi, to match BEMP modules and 1333mhz(2600NB), as you want NB speed to be approx twice the mem speed.

Like I said I have dealt with this bug on multiple asus boards just like I have dealt with locked trfc settings on all current asus boards.

Also nb scaling was annoying when you hit the glitch but you never had to match it to the memory for it to work I ran 1800 cl6 with a 3000mhz nb wjile I was pushing air clocks on my c2 955 I had a c1 945es that pushed 397xmhz core/3150mhz nb/1300mhz ddr2. It all depends on chip board and mem combo higher nb clocks may lead to marginal gains but a marginal gain is still a gain.

cadaveca · Apr 30, 2010

Yeah, I just wanted to highlight it a bit as others may run into it. Not everyone has the same experience.

And i think mant people more will run into it now that X6 is here...1055T is damn cheap.

PaulieG · Apr 30, 2010

Wow, am I going to need to switch gears. I've been clocking i7's so much over the last year, I almost can't remember how to clock a Phenom II. I'm looking at the box of my 1090T, and I swear the chip is trying to get out. :laugh:

Sadly though, the Crosshair IV won't be here until Monday.

I hope I didn't make a mistake in ordering the CH IV instead of waiting for the Gigabyte UD7. I just now noticed that the CH IV doesn't have dual bios. Damn.

Whilhelm · Apr 30, 2010

No mistake in ordering the Crosshair IV its a pretty awesome board. It has instructions on how to recover the bios if it goes corrupt during a flash.

erocker · May 1, 2010

I officially hate FedEx.

:shadedshu The board took it's sweet time getting to my area, then I guess the delivery driver felt he needed to take the day off early.

dumo · May 6, 2010

Bios 0801 test

Boot up and run

ChewyBrownSuga · May 7, 2010

Didn't read all the posts but didn't see anything about the Crosshair IV Extreme IV having Lucid

http://www.facebook.com/#!/album.php?aid=229778&id=405774002387&ref=mf

erocker · May 7, 2010

Bios 801 is now on the Asus main support site, and they have updated the QVL memory list. 2000mhz Tridents are on there now!

ShRoOmAlIsTiC · May 9, 2010

what mem would work best if using a megahalem on this board?

I wanted to get the corsair 4gb 1600 6-6-6 stuff but the heatspreaders are way too tal and I dont think the fan will clear.

luubaan · May 9, 2010

crosshair IV

stop away me no Jake he quoth to the USB?haven't seen per cent no can do?

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ASUS 890FX Crosshair IV Formula Teardown

Reefer86

cadaveca

My name is Dave

Reefer86

cadaveca

My name is Dave

cdawall

where the hell are my stars

cadaveca

My name is Dave

dumo

cdawall

where the hell are my stars

cadaveca

My name is Dave

PaulieG

Whilhelm

erocker

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