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ASUS GeForce GTX 670 Direct CU II 2048 MB

Discussion in 'Reviews' started by W1zzard, May 10, 2012.

  1. Xzibit

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    Nice analogy.

    Then I got to thinking. I sure hope it doesnt turn out to be a Vin Diesel movie :D


    I like this card more then the others. My issue has never been its gaming performance but rather the direction its taken and the price point to its offering.

    Every cycle both architectures AMD & Nvidia are suppose to be improved upon, thats a given.

    The innovation is there since both companies are similar with their end results but sticking to the engine analogies. Dont know if you'll remember this one the Variable Displacement.

    Lets deal with square you have 8 square in-side a box. You take two squares out. Those 2 empty squares are not using power nor space. Your saving power and heat from those 2 you took out. Since you took those out you can take the clutter that was attached to those two from the remaing 6, which gives you more space and less power to use and less heat.
    Now you have 2 and a half square of the equivelant not taking up space, power nor heat. Lets turn up the Revs going back to the engine lingo. The extra space can be used as a buffer for heat allowing you to Rev it up while still lowering power usage.
    The competition arrived at the same conclusion using 8 squares.

    But what do we know about lower displacement ? They always need a SuperCharger or a Turbo to conpensate for low end torque throughout the powerband.

    Just looks bad for what they are offering while pivoting the arch without even bothering adjusting price. Even if AMD is priced high 2 wrongs dont make a right.

    Lower your prices!!!

    Like selling you a BLT hamburger without the BLT at the price of a BLT. Dam plain hamburger.:banghead:

    Maybe i'm the minority that doesnt like to get screwed even if its cake or cookies. :toast:
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  2. MxPhenom 216

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    Im getting two of these for sure!

    saw that it was 2 slot and instantly needed to go get new pants :D
  3. EarthDog

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    A BLT without the BLT is called bread. There is no burger in a BLT. :p
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    still no one has addressed when it will actually come out.. does anyone know this answer?
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    Bacon
    Lettuce
    Tomatoe

    :slap: :nutkick: :toast:
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  6. EarthDog

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    Yep nowhere do I see HAMBURGER. When you order a BLT anywhere, you get bread, Bacon, Lettuce, and Tomato, not BLT+Ground beef.


    HAHAHAA... anyway, YOU said hamburger, so all just pulling your chain. :)
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    Thank you Wizzard for the test!

    And HOLY HELL.........is that card a beast or what??!!??
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    Sorry, just a wild guess.

    In terms of AMD vs NVIDIA, I think the 7970 and 7950 is still king. Anyone who thinks Nvidia is winning with gtx 680 or DirectCUII 670, I'd like to point you to the 6gb Nvidia 8970, which gets about 40% betters fps than gtx 690, reference is 25dBa at load, and is equally easy to find for sale.
  9. EarthDog

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    Heh, another 'wild guess'. You need to say that instead of posting it up like facts homeboy.

    Where are you getting this information from in the first place about this so called 8970 beating a 690 by a whopping 40%? Have you read any benchmarks or know anything about the PCIe specifications? The 7970 has a small deficit to overcome against the 680 in performance, and is also 20W more in power. So it has that to make up AND fit within a 300W PCIE power threshold. :confused: :shadedshu
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    I see what you're describing, but that’s more architectural, which yes Nvidia did so much better in Kepler and how they arranged the GPC and SMX segments. And on that modular design they must have been in the works years before. They might not have know the cost/buy structure would change, just forward thinking. (or saw the writing on the wall from TSMC)

    The ability to disable SMX and or complete GPC segment mean the can "slice and dice" almost at will and wherever, while still achieving the "most" from almost every chip from the wafer. That means the wafer cost is supplanted by almost every die... That means great BfB for Nvidia, as long as checking, sorting, disabling and binning has been invested in and very efficient and automated processing by machine. It's nervia for either to achieve to such a scale, and Nvidia figured it out and them strapped on Turbo Boost to wring the utmost.

    I'm positive that Nvidia is super cost effective on price for GK104's probably lower that may "mainstreams" of the past, when you average 320 mm² die from the price for a complete 12in wafer. Then the size and components of this new PCB (4+2 phase PWM) and then a heat sink that only described as "simple affair". No vapor chamber it not even heat pipes, nothing more than a copper contact plate and aluminum fins for a enthusiasts card. So selling such reference design will make a boat load for Nvidia and AIB that stick to that. Honestly, I could see Nvidia actually going back to building and marketing cards and dropping some partners as the margins could be that lucrative.

    It good to see Nvidia back on their game, but man I feel weird supplementing over and above just to see them in this new arena. Not that a 7970 is worth the price of admission, but a Tahiti wafer figure provides 3 acceptable variants, using more silicon so each has to cost AMD more. Then most AIB at minimum have 5+1 power, full-length PCB, vapor chamber or H-P coolers, and so much more on the BOM, but can be at a $470 price.

    As I've said make a 7950 at the 925Mhz, and de-content at under $380. Then use the new Ghz chips to saturate the market, with well appointed customs that are and can be over-clocked at $480. Give "enthusiasts" what they want for 2560x and above, not just some plug-n-pay!
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    He's trolling. He has nothing. Nada. Zilch.
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    thats great.. trolling.. but seriously why is this not in stores yet but the others are?
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    I dont give a shit how much better something is compared to its counter part. All i care is that it performs better. Sorry but the 8970 doesnt even exist LOL! I dont see how anyone can consider the 7970 and 7950 king still. At first when nvidia had nothing to counter it the 7970 and 7950 were the big thing on the market. Now nvidia has released cards that perform better by fair margins while running cooler, quieter, and consume less power. The gtx670 at this point is the card to get. uses 20 or more watts less in power and costs 399 MSRP and beats out a card that is 80 to $100 more(the 7970). Nvidia has shot AMD when the 680 released by releasing a faster card for cheaper price. But now Nvidia has shot themselves and AMD for releasing the 670 that performs within 5% of the 680 and in par with the 7970 and in some respects like the 670 directCUII is beating out both. for $419

    All im getting out of things you have posted is your a trolling fanboy. the GTX670 DirectCUII will be available in the coming days. 680s will hopefully be back in healthy stock starting in June
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    Ive lost some respect for you guys today......how can you not see the troll in this? Come on! Have I taught you NOTHING?!

    Anyway I'm looking forward to getting a 670 Direct CU II in a year or so.
  15. MxPhenom 216

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    yeah. I still wanted to reply.

    In a year? there will be new cards lol!
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    And? The card I have now is running BF3 at Ultra with no AA. Why would I spend $420 dollars to play BF3 at Ultra.....with 4xaa? Really man 420 bucks for this card is way to much. In a year when its 320 or so Ill buy it and even then no game will push it I bet. Its a pointless upgrade right now.
  17. EarthDog

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    B7 that tool.

    :shadedshu
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    Dude?....I am a complete newb and know that's bullshit. The direct comparisons between the 79XX Amd cards ARE the GTX 670's and 680's.......why in the world would you bring up some card that hasn't only come out yet....but hasn't even been brought up in any way from AMD?

    If you're going to start saying stuff like that.....can we mention the GTX770 and 780.....because those cards will be going up against that mythical card you just brought up.
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    At first I wanted a 680 then I wanted a 690 and then I wanted this 670! Now I want 2 of these!! Go W1zz and go Nvidia!
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    I think you may want the 660 too:laugh:
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    First off, as mentioned we are talking GAMING product comparisons here. You still have what little brain power you've invested in the argument stuck on the HPC industry, as if that segment alone were crippling Nvidia, which obviously isn't the case. Nvidia are leading AMD/ATI on sales of gaming product by such a large margin, they could survive on that alone.

    They've also proven they can pack the horsepower behind HPC if they really wanted to focus more on that. Nvidia are smart enough to adapt to what market yields them the most profits and focus mostly on that. AMD/ATI by comparison flounder around without much focus or diligence when it comes to architectural advancement, new features, or driver support.

    Funny you should even talk about trolling, because here you are with maybe only one or two other people ranting against Nvidia in a thread about new Nvidia product just because you can't stand hearing people give it it's due praise. That's practically the definition of trolling, get a clue for once. A troller accusing others of trolling is silly childish hypocrisy, no more.

    @ Those mentioning low yields,
    Yields commonly drop a certain margin when drastic design changes are made, whether it be architectural or die size changes, but as mentioned, Nvidia's yields aren't any worse than AMD/ATI's. It's only a "problem" if the yields are so poor they can't be competitive with pricing, but HELLO, have you checked pricing lately? Apparently not. Common business sense dictates that if AMD/ATI had such stellar yields by comparison, they could easily hit a better price to performance ratio and win on volume of sales, but they are FAR from doing that as anyone can see. Like I said, the yields you get are relative to how they allow you to compete.

    Bottom line, no one in their right mind can justify saying Nvidia are in trouble whether it be chip design, features, drivers, yields, or which segment of the computer industry they're focusing on most. The only time such comments even come out is when poor people don't like to see them leading the industry (same happens when Intel smacks AMD), or AMD/ATI fanboys can't stand seeing them smack the crap out of the competition in gaming product.

    All I have to say is put your petty angst aside and maybe you'll realize that in gaming product the value now lies with Nvidia, or, you can stay angry and ignorant, though blissful I doubt. The irony is, the budget shopping consumers with much shallower pockets now have no reason whatsoever to label Nvidia as price gouging elitists, but they still find ways to troll against them with baseless arguments as if they are the evil empire.
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  22. Vizzy New Member

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    can we focus less on whos trolling and more on does anyone know when it will be for sale at like newegg?
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    The egg

    3 brands available, 4 sold out.
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    yes I don't want a normal 670 though I want the asus one.. and its not out anywhere yet for some reason
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    why you say my name? :laugh:

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