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ASUS Maximus IV Extreme

Discussion in 'Motherboards & Memory' started by Apotheoun, Apr 17, 2011.

  1. Apotheoun New Member

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    Is this board worth the price? I plan on putting a 2600k and 2 6970s in it when I buy it.
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    Worth the price? That's such a subjective question. To me, it's not, when a P8P67 Pro is nearly half the price. So is a gigabyte UD4 and Biostar TP67XE. It does have more phases, but even the Pro and Deluxe are about overkill. If you will truly use all of the features that board offers, then it may be worth it to you. Just don't expect a huge leap in performance despite the huge leap in price. All of the above mentioned boards will overclock the hell out of a 2600K
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    A big whooping yes!!! I have this board you are talking about. All I can tell you is that I am very impressed. It's just not me either. Look at the reviews at New Egg. Sure you can't trust all reviews.... but in terms of a motherboard.... it's the tits!!!

    It has so many features that I promise you that you won't use all of them. I will also tell you that the EFI Bios is sick as well as the ROG Connect is pretty cool too.

    One other thing I liked is the Board is capable of Tri-SLI or Tri Crossfire too. If you have slim cards it is possible to run 4 cards in Crossfire. So besides that being a cool thing.... that also allows you to have enough spacing between the cards (When running just two) to allow for better temps. Which is good considering how hot todays top end cards get.

    Sorry to sound so excited.... but I really like mine and I will encourage anyone who is interested to get one!

    But I will agree with him too though.... it depends if you are going to use all of the stuff on the board too. While I don't I bet you I use close to 80% of it. SO it was worth it to me. And some of the stuff I didn't think I would use I ended up using anyway.... because it was convenient.
  4. Apotheoun New Member

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    I may end up going with the Gigabyte UD7 for the fact that the Maximus IV puts 2x cards at x8 instead of x16.
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    According to the specs the UD7 does x16 + x8. The Maximus IV does x8 + x8 but in Tri-Fire it does x8 + x16 + x16 which makes no sense to me. :confused:
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    Yeah I was reading that too. It's pretty confusing as to why they would do that.
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    Does it have a nf200 chip on it? Maybe it only gets enabled in 3SLI?
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    I'm building a rig with this board (already have it) and I'm also curious about the x8/x8... :confused: It does have a NF200 chip, but isn't it supposed to work with both AMD/NV card? Not that I'm gonna do Crossfire any time soon, just curious. Also, if anyone is interested I'll post overclocking and benchmark results when the PC is finished (20th I suppose). The build is gonna be the following: 2500k, 5970 (transfering from my old PC because I don't have the money to buy a 6990 yet), 4Gb of Corsair 1600/7-8-7-20. So if anyone is interested post some benchmarks you want to see and I'll run 'em on Wednesday! :toast:
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    What you say is true.... but if you run the cards in the 1st and 4th slot (Which is possible I have done it) The cards run @x16 & x8. Plus I have owned board that do x16 & x16 and also boards that do x8 & x8 I can tell no difference even in score.

    The guy asking bout this I promise you won't notice. Even in benching really.

    It runs like this....

    1st slot - x16
    1st and 3rd slot - x8 & x8
    1st and 4th Slot - x8 & x16
    1st 3rd and 4th slot - x8/x16/x16

    It also has a 4th PCIe slot in the second position that I have not experimented with. Don't get me wrong I love gigabyte they are my favorite brand actually. But I think Asus beat them with this board this time around. Maybe wait for the UD9 if you want Gigabyte.
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    So what if you use just the 3rd and 4th slot?
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    I'm probably one of the few persons who've had both boards, a B2 UD7 and currently the Maximus IV Rev 3.0.

    Both can do x16 for dual cards, both of them require these cards to be right next to each other in order to enable x16, the only difference is the UD7 requires both upper x16 slots to be populated while the Maximus IV requires the bottom slots and an extra card on the first x8 slot in order to activate x16 with dual cards. That extra card can be any card, a sound card, a RAID controller, an SSD drive, etc.

    Trust me, I've tried all configurations and x16 wont offer much improvement over x8, I've seen this with my own eyes. The only problem is having both cards so close together will effectively heat the top card 15~20 degrees higher than the bottom card. I decided to use x8 SLI just because of this, the performance difference is almost non existent.

    If you want x16 for dual SLI or X-Fire, you may wanna look at he P8P67 WS Revolution, it offers you a better x16 configuration for dual cards. One advantage the Maximus IV has over the UD7 is that for 3-way SLI you get x8x16x16 on the Asus board vs. x16x8x8 on the UD7, so for triple card setups the Asus board might theoretically be slightly better.

    I have mostly used Asus ROG boards, and decided to give the UD7 a try. The board OCs like there's no tomorrow, and the build quality is awesome, but the BIOS is really unstable, and it got really annoying having to flash my BIOS everytime the board crashed just because the Dual-BIOS function activated on any minor crash. I've never had that problem with the Asus board.

    As for OCing performance, both boards allowed me to reach over 5Ghz without any issues, but the UD7 allowed me to push my RAM performance a little bit more due to tighter timings on that board, so you could say the UD7 wins by a neglegible margin.

    For looks, I think I liked the UD7 better, GB really got his act together for their P67 boards, although the Asus board doesn't look bad by any means. The Maximus IV some more features than the UD7, like Bluetooth, UEFI, and a better software suite IMHO; it also feels more like a luxury board, so I guess you get what you pay for.

    Now, having had both boards, I can tell you, from my personal experience I'm not buying a Gigabyte board again. Let me tell you a short story:

    After the P67 recall was announced, I called GB and asked them for instructions on how to exchange my board, they told me to return it to the original seller, I felt like GB just let me out there with no support, I contacted ProVantage (the original seller), and it took them ONE FULL MONTH and many phone calls and emails to give me the RMA! all the while GB support told me that since ProVantage was not one of their direct re-sellers, there was nothing they could do... Imagine my dismay.

    After finally recieving the RMA autho from ProVantage, (worst support ever, some Reps just straight up hung up the phone on me! :mad:) I shipped my board back and assembled my backup rig. In the meantime, I read all about Asus and MSI offering direct advanced exchange for all their P67 boards, all this while GB hung me up to dry.

    I decided to go back to Asus while I waited for my refund from ProVantage, I was one of the lucky ones to be able to order on the first shipment of Rev. 3.0 Maximus IV boards.

    Two weeks after I returned my board to ProVantage (and with no refund in sight) I received a call from GB saying that they had changed their mind and were now offering a direct exchange option for their P67 boards, I almost wanted to strangle the person on the other side of the line. I told her all the problems I had dealing with ProVantage, and asked them for their help, the rep basically told me "dude, you're really screwed" (not their words, but you get the message)

    It took me over a month to get my money back from ProVantage after they received my board according to UPS, and not before I called my credit card bank and gave them all the shipping information and photos of the board ready to ship and they contacted ProVantage to ask for my money back. That's my personal story, and I'm pretty sure there's ppl who've had a better experience than me with GB, but I'm not ever buying one of their products, trust me, that's not bitterness there, it's just common sense.

    So yeah, IMHO the Asus Maximus IV is technically the best board, if only by a small margin; it's also more expensive, but as I said, you get what you pay for, and if that also means getting the best support in the business, then I'm all for it :)
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    OK, the rig is done, just the D14 left to buy, but there is a problem with the onboard audio. When I play compressed audio, like MP3s, the sound level of different instruments fluctuates. This does not happen with uncompressed audio. I'll try to describe it more accurately: for example, when a double-bass drum kicks in the crash suddenly drops in loudness, or when there is a louder solo the vocals drop in loudness. This is very noticeable and VERY annoying. I've tried with and without drivers installed. "Loudness Equalization" is always turned off, adn if I turn it on it just makes the audio kinda muddy and the problem still persists. I notice it most on multi-instrument music, like metal, where the different instruments differ in range a lot. It is almost unnoticeable if I play something like classical music. I'm thinking about just buying an addon sound card, but my budget is limited at the moment, so any help with resolving the issue without spending money will be much appreciated. :D
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    I've tried with an optical cable, but the issue still persists... I'm thinking that buying a sound card might be the only option and I don't like that because I don't have the money... :D I really need help with this, so any input is appreciated - does your onboard sound do what I'm describing, is there any way to eliminate this. Thanks in advance.
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    You know I don't know... I haven't tried.... but reading the post right after yours seems to be the answer bud.

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