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ASUS Radeon HD 6990 4096 MB

Discussion in 'Reviews' started by W1zzard, Mar 7, 2011.

  1. HellasVagabond New Member

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    Power consumption is not good but it could be the same or better than a dual GTX580 card, we have to Wait and see.
    Personally speaking i am not into mGPU solutions since A) They don't offer twice the performance (or3/4 times with Tri/Quad SLI/CF) B) They are Noisy (The 6990 while playing BulletStorm or Metro2033 is terrible - thank god i have a Tannoy 5.1 speaker system) and C) They do use too much power.

    In any case this is going to end up as another flame between AMD people who used to run crazy over the fact that the GTX4xx series used lots of power but now they use that to say "hey we are not worse" and NVIDIA fans who can rest assure that they have the best single core card and easily the best mGPU card if the green camp ever releases it.
     
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    WOW......AMD..Seriously? I think Nvidia is sitting back like F#ck Yeah!!...

    This isn't that good and I think Nvidia will dor better by at least 10%
     
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    damn man I a dissapointed, if a GTX590 does come out this thing will almost definitely get smashed:shadedshu

    definitely not buyin

    but still why don't you use higher res wiz, it might do better there
     
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    W1zzard Administrator Staff Member

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    higher res than 2560x1600 ?

    eyefinity is such a tiny niche market that graphics cards vendors invented to justify higher powered cards in a market full of console ports. send me some 2560x1600 monitors and a bigger room
     
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    dalekdukesboy New Member

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    This. I love that last line, talk about a perfect touche to a well made point, I mean you can't even run a current game like metro (albeit it's the toughest game out there) in eyefinity nevermind anything coming down the pike...maybe if you had 3 gtx 580's or 2 6990's maybe just maybe you could run metro with eyefinity with a whole 15 fps...
     
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    maybe...but the gtx 470 you sold me and it's sli'd counterpart I'm running can probably beat this thing...maybe even before the OC I have on them! :laugh:
     
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    Why not this?

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    this

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    or this?

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    I see a much greater difference than the one you posted, and I'm looking at the same review! Without the sarcasm: I may choose to see a greater difference. ;)

    And yes I'd define 15% as a fair bit. That's the performance difference we are getting between sub $200 cards and $300 cards, and between $300 and $400-500, so I'd call that "bit of a difference" a significant one, yes. So if it's only 10% faster and it would need to have a peak (W1zz's peak) power consumption of more than 330w, for my statement to be false. If it's 15% faster, 345w and so on.

    So who wants to bet the card will have a peak of 330-350w? I say it won't.
     
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    I dunno I just chose the most heavy one from the list that is also a TWIMTBP title.But It's a given now that Nvidia will delay the 590 and OC it accordingly so that it is over the PCI-e limit and equal the playing field. At least that's what I'd do at this point.

    You are right tho. The examples you gave have a peformance advantage of 25-30% which is definitely a fair bit. The question is are they the norm or are they the exception. And what will future games be like? Will they be like the current heavyweights like Metro and Crysis or will they be console ports that run at over 100fps.
     
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    so 6970 CF = win?
     
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    Obviously :p
    This has always been the case. Even if the dual GPU solution manages to be as efficient noise wise and heat wise as the CF solution, it will always be limited to half the PCI-e bandwidth, where as a CF solution can enjoy full glorious 16x PCI-e transmiting at 8GB/s.
     
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    If you can afford one of this monster, you certainly won't mind paying a few more bucks for your power bills.

    Great review, as always.!
     
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    whoops my bad shouldn't have put the"?" on it :p
     
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    Seriously?

    Look at the various charts in this thread comparing GTX560 SLI to the 6990. That's what you can hope for with GTX470 OC SLI vs the 6990.

    A comparision that I would like to see, however, is 3 lower end cards. I'm thinking that three 6850s, which have a similar shader count to this monster, would be considerably quiter and cheaper. Similar argument to 6970CF>6990 and 570SLI>6990, but with three cards instead of two :p
     
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    i think that would be interesting as well. only if it was easy to do all of these tests:cry:
     
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    That's why I always only use Wizz's average numbers when I'm talking about performance. Nowadays you can find games where one card is as much as 20% faster while on average is 20% slower. Wizz tests the most games, so I go with that.
     
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    $729.99 ...... :confused:

    Two 570's obliterate one 6990. Anyone see the problem I'm getting at?

    The 6990 should cost $499 to make it worth while.. very dumb price.
     
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    On the other hand, AMD can claim that they have the fastest card yet again, and dumb AMDiots will buy them to run on their 1024x768 Alienware monitor. The card is not created for us to buy, but for us (as in general public) to admire AMD as a brand.
     
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    I see the market they are going after, the crazy (literally crazy) enthusiast who absolutely must have the "best" card available. But any educated buyer would know that two 580's, 570's or simply waiting for the 590 will result in a better performing choice.

    The 6990 is [insert expletive here] dumb IMO. It's loud, gets too hot, has a [insert other expletive here] cooler, looks boring, scales poorly, and is stupidly expensive for what you get. There isn't any REAL incentive to get the 6990 over an alternative dual card solution.
     
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    I'd rather have a pair of crossfired or SLI'ed cards simply because of the reduced noise. That 6990 might just be Dustbuster's relative. But just think of how much more heat it is dissipating compared to that pathetic 5800 Ultra!

    But I'm not sure why I'd need more than a single 6970 or 580 right now anyway. Hell I'm not sure why I need those either at the moment.
     
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    This card is essentially 2 scaled down 6970's jammed into one board. Of course, it's gonna be loud, power hungry, and slightly slower than 2x6970's. What did people think it was gonna be like? Remember the 5970 when it was first released? Same thing. NVIDIA has not released dual card since 295GTX so it will be interesting to see if they can really make significant changes. My guess is not if they do decide to cramp 2 580's into one card.
     
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    If you go back to the 5970 review and the 4870x2 all the same rambling arguments are being made, over and over again. This is why I have nothing real to contribute to this thread other than I wouldn't mind one of these cards myself.
     
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    I keep seeing people saying "OMG, it's so power hungry, so loud, not equal 2 6970's, disappointed, etc." so I figure to chime in. Nothing real insightful to contribute except that buyer should wait for NVIDIA 590 to come out later this month.

    Just checked newegg and they have like 2 of each card, lol. All sold out.
     
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    You're a mind reader man.
    My exact thoughts.
     
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    seriously, although I did put the laugh face at the end of my quote which indicated it was at least partially a joke...and I posted that BEFORE those charts even appeared so only in retrospect could I even see the charts...however in SERIOUSNESS totally thanks for bringing the charts to my attention and proving my point even though I was just half serious and trying to get a laugh from him...I just circled the charts granted only 3 games are used but this is what you referred to...

    and low and behold gtx 560 and 470 perform similarly at stock speeds in single card mode and in mass effect the 560 sli beats the 6990 albeit slightly but by a couple frames at stock, in battleforge the 6990 wins again by a few frames over the 560 sli, and due to bad scaling in civilization 5 a single 470/560 almost beats the 6990 and in sli the 560 kills it...now by my count the 560 sli won 2 of 3 by those aforementioned charts and my 470's are both overclocked by 200 mhz so they are significantly faster than a stock 470 with the fairly low clock of 605.

    So even at stock speed my setup would be real close to or beat the 6990 especially if the 470's scale better than a 560, and with overclocking as I mentioned to start with I definitely would beat the 6990...and instead of 700 bucks I spent 430 and got a couple extra fans to boot...so which would you pick
     

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    a bold step forward always garners awe and criticism... that's what AMD is doing right now.

    Breaking conventions (both good and bad): check.


    Like others have said though, this is more of a showpiece, a greater majority just won't be able to justify the purchase. I am happy with my recent upgrade from a GTX260 -> 5870, but sometimes I question that move since recently I have been playing more of DOTA (Warcraft III) than any of the newer (prettier) games -- maybe just goes to show that great gaming hardware needs great games to push them (looking forward to BF3 hellyeah)..
     

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