ATI Radeon 9200SE Overclock

[Undead Blade]

Can someone help me ? Can anyone tell me what is the maximum overclocking possible without needing to install a new fan? In my case there are only 2 fans - the CPU and the power supply. As you can see in my signature i am using ATITool v0.24 to overclock it, bringing some performance (+8fps in Half-Life 2 - Texture Detail, Model Detail, Shader Detail and Shadow Detail on High; Water - Reflect All; AF 16x; AA 0x; VSync Disabled on 1024x768 - basically from 33fps(average) to 41fps)

I was able to push it to Core 237.50 MHz and Memory 194.44 MHz but there was too much heat, and i do not wish to install a new fan, since in a few months i am going to change the video card anyway (see signature for defaults)

 

[Dippyskoodlez]

Can someone help me ? Can anyone tell me what is the maximum overclocking possible without needing to install a new fan? In my case there are only 2 fans - the CPU and the power supply. As you can see in my signature i am using ATITool v0.24 to overclock it, bringing some performance (+8fps in Half-Life 2 - Texture Detail, Model Detail, Shader Detail and Shadow Detail on High; Water - Reflect All; AF 16x; AA 0x; VSync Disabled on 1024x768 - basically from 33fps(average) to 41fps)

I was able to push it to Core 237.50 MHz and Memory 194.44 MHz but there was too much heat, and i do not wish to install a new fan, since in a few months i am going to change the video card anyway (see signature for defaults)

mox speed depends on your temps and card itself...

 

[wazzledoozle]

Let ATITool find the max speed... Then drop it by 10 MHz for a really stable overclock.

My 9200SE could reach ~290 MHz with a slightly larger heatsink and no fan. So id say a ~250 for yours with the stock heatsink.. got a picture of the card?

 

[Undead Blade]

My computer is still in it's warranty period, and by letting ATITool run for 45 minutes it got 235Mhz, so now i changed it from 219.60 to 225.00. I left the memory alone, as it seems it generates most of the heat.

What do you recommend - keep the current settings, make the core to it's defaults and the memory to 200Mhz or make the core to 250Mhz and the memory to it's defaults?

The current settings generate the same amount of heat as the CPU in idle, that's roughly 40-45 degrees.

P.S. On the video card manufacturer's site i found this picture:

Now, since I did not make the computer my self, I do not know if that is exactly my card. Once at the service I did saw a glimpse of it - it was black, but i dont remember it having a fan.

Also the Catalyst 5.6 is 32 Mb on ATI's website, but on the manufacturer's site it has a whopping 78 Mb - they also include overclocking tools. Currently i use the Catalyst 5.6 - should i go for my manufacturer's drivers?

P.P.S. I dont have settings anywhere for fan control - that's why i believe i have a simple radiator.

 

[wazzledoozle]

Well, after 45 minutes is that your max overclock, or do you stop it?

Also, you dont see fan control because your card doesnt have it, only 9600XT do (there is a 3rd wire for rpm monitoring).

Id just let ATITool run for 1-2 hours, or until it detects artifacts, just to make sure you cna run the speeds you would want to set.

AMD cpu's can handle temps up to about 60 celsius perfectly fine so dont worry about cpu temps so much while finding your max core and memory speeds. Just keep it under 60

Stick with the ATI drivers, I cant see how they make a 46 mb overclocking utility

 

[kitt3]

Ok to be honest with u, ur cpu is great 3.06 GHz this is really fast . Anyways, u said you are hitting 31 fps in " Half life 2 " , which is im really not suprised , cuz ur card is really old, if i were u i wouldnt overclock it and produce all this heat for no reason that might harm the mobo or the cpu . So hold and wait untill u upgrade ur vid-card .

Btw wat kinda vid card r u gonna get ?

Sincerly


Sam

 

[Undead Blade]

As for HL2 testing, I did some more, but to be honest, the 41 fps is the top, and the minimum is 12, but usually, i get 18-19fps. Last night I tried messing around with the ATITool settings, and then run a short demo, obtaining the following values:

DEFAULTS

Core 200 Memory 166 = 23fps (+ heat)

BOTH CORE AND MEMORY

Core 290(MAX) Memory 205(MAX) = 32fps (don't even think about it)
Core 237 Memory 195 = 28fps (+++++ heat)
Core 225 Memory 180 = 27fps (+++ heat) - current setting
Core 220 Memory 180 = 25fps (+++ heat)
Core 210 Memory 175 = 25fps (+++ heat)

CORE ONLY

Core 290(MAX) Memory 166 = 25fps (++++ heat)
Core 250 Memory 166 = 24fps (++ heat)

MEMORY ONLY

Core 200 Memory 205(MAX) = 27fps (+++++ heat)
Core 200 Memory 180 = 25fps (++++ heat)

+ is the normal setting
+++ is a bit ok, but not or more than 2-3 hours
+++++ is not ok, in the 10 min it took me to run the demo the card went as hot as the CPU, and btw, my cpu is 40-45 degrees in IDLE, in active mode it's WWAAAYYY hotter.
The (MAX) is the maximum without artifacts.
The most suitable for me are the +++ ones, because i don't play for very long times, so after playing, i usually put the card to Core 100 and Memory 100, to cool it down.
It reaches maximum overclock after about 30 minutes.

As for the drivers, they have some more programs also, I had them about a year before, but then i was even n00bier than now, so I didn't know what they do, and didn't even bother to use them. I'll probably try to download them when i come back from my holiday.

I'm hoping to get an X700 or X800, but at the price of 840$ for the X800XT my dad will not even think about it. My best bet is 250$ ASUS X700 card and 150$ for 4x512Mb RAM.

 

[Deep Purple]

About 250 mhz for Core and 205 mhz for Memory I think. Is better that you no surpass these clock with that refrigeration. Test yourself the max clocks without artifacts and then decerease about 20 mhz in core and memory clocks. Good luck!

 

[JBravo]

@ undead blade

How did you measure temps on your 9200? I've got the 9550, but I can't read temps to check the max overclock

 

[Pinchy]

Lol wow this is an old thread.

@ Jbravo, your card might not have a thermal sensor on it. His 9200 might have had one.

 

[JBravo]

@ pinchy

yeah I only saw the date after I posted the question