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Audigy SE to X-Fi Xtreme Audio

Discussion in 'General Hardware' started by KainXS, Dec 26, 2007.

  1. KainXS

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    I want to mod the drivers for the X-Fi Xtreme Audio to work on the Audigy SE
    These cards are physically almost identical and the only difference really is in the drivers. The card is even been confirmed to be a rebranded Audigy SE with a X-Fi sticker on it

    Now the drivers for the Audigy SE actually work for the X-Fi Xtreme Audio, but the X-Fi's drivers don't have the Audigy SE's device id in them so its not detected. So first of all is there any way to change a PCI devices device id permanantly or or force a different id in windows

    :toast:this will either be the death of this card:toast: or it working with the X-Fi drivers because I bought a new X-Fi gamer and want to mod this card now for everyone who bought one of these things
     
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    Sure, but the X-Fi Xtreme Audio has a different device ID. The Xtreme Audio driver is made not to recognise the Audigy SE.
     
  3. KainXS

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    I just installed the X-Fi Xtreme Audio drivers on the Audigy SE after modding the drivers, now have to mod the rest to work, but the card is now installed as a Xtreme Audio

    shows you how cheap creative is
     
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    Yeah, but you end up losing the WHQL with mod drivers. A nice feat nonetheless. :respect:
     
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    I did what I set out to do, I was able to get the X-Fi Xtreme Audio drivers to work with the Audigy SE, this means that the X-Fi Xtreme Audio is NOT a real X-Fi card and is very far from it, its a sound blaster live 24 bit with updated software, why creative would screw people over like that I don't know.

    I could tell from the beginning because the Audigy SE/Live24bit have the same device ID as the X-Fi Xtreme Audio but a different SUBID so that when you install the drivers they don't work.

    http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/5608/16811547rj1.png
    look at the hardware Id

    In order to install the X-Fi console I had to use my X-Fi card and then edit it, I don't feel like cracking the installer.

    the edited drivers for Audigy SE
    Audigy SE to X-Fi Xtreme Audio - FileFront.com

    i need someone to check them to confirm, install the drivers by using P17.ini
     
  7. GLD

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    Good work Kain! I had read not sood things about the Xtreme Audio Edition. I am glad I spent the extra $ and got the Fatal1ty X-Fi. I would have been bummed to spend $60+ on a card that is really a Sound Blaster. :toast:
     
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    yeah i read about this somewhere. some of the creative "x-fi" cards are actually fakes and dont use the x-fi chipset.
     
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    where i can find this drivers? Win xp and Vista
     
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    From what I've heard, the Xtreme Audio has gotten a few positive reviews. It makes you wonder if that $150 X-fi was really worth it...
     
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    Ok i was able to get it to read as an x-fi xtreme audio card, but what's the difference?? is there different software for it??
     
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    Only the Xtreme Audio cards - rebranded Audigys that were re-branded from the Live! series. Only component difference that I know of, is the Audigy and the Xtreme Audio use the same chipset, which is different than found on the Live!.

    Cheap, yes; big reason why I try to steer people away from the Xtreme Audio if possible. You're not really buying an X-Fi; and considering the Xtreme Gamer tends to run $10-$20 more, y'know?


    Anyhow, nice work on that mod KainXS! :toast:
     
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    I want to install x-fi xtreme audio drives on a Audigy SE pci card, so i need the mod drivers :S
    KAINXS help!
     
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    Question is, could you install Audigy drivers with the Xtreme Audio? That would certainly prove that they are identical.
     
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    In theory, if the Xtreme Audio drivers work for the Audigy, the Audigy drivers should work for the XA - only functionality you would lose would be the EAX 5 support, CMSS-3D and the Crystallizer feature.
     
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    Hello, i install the drivers using p17, on device manager change, but when attemp to install the SB_X-Fi_Xtreme_Audio drivers, don't let me install telling that couldn't detect any compatible dispositive. How do you do to installl the SB_X-Fi_Xtreme_Audio after install the p17?

    Thanks man :)

    Here a picture of dxdiag:
    [​IMG]
     
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    I'm almost done getting the Audigy console working, well kinda

    but I haven't tested them on vista so far
     
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    Hi!

    I just want to say that the mod also works with the SB Live 24 bits! card. Now, it shows Xtreme audio :)

    nice work ^^ Waiting for the console.
    Greetings from chile!!!!.

    PD: sorry about my english >.<
     
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    woohoo they did it
     
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  20. licksfromhell New Member

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    KaynXS I have good news:

    In this forum (I don't want to make spam, if you think that this is not right here, please delete it):

    http://www.chw.net/foro/sound-blaster-live-audigy-se-x-fi-xtreme-audio-t157308p2.html

    We were talking about your excelent job modding this drivers and one user said that he found a modded driver including crystalizer, cms3d, and even the console. They worked for me, and crystalizer is just great.

    If you want to give them a shoot, this is the download link:

    http://www.4shared.com/file/47120756/30d07531/Audigy_to_X-Fi_Extreme_Audio_MOD_drivers.html

    Hope they work also for you. Greetings!!!^^

    Sorry again about my english, I speak spanish >.<
     
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    There are more capacitors on the Xfi card than the Audigy. I doubt it really makes any difference though.
     
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    cheers everyone:toast:

    thanks for telling me that licksfromhell, whoever did it I thanked them on that forum.

    those drivers should work for the live 24bit as well,

    still, its very strange, creatives site seems to have the chopped down drivers and more than likely its to prevent exactly this

    very strange

    well this proves the X-Fi Xtreme Audio is pretty much a fake X-Fi with sound qualiy only a little better than the other variants due to its cirrus logic dsp.

    but creative will be somewhat pissed off of these drivers, but Alchemy dosen't work yet so maybe not.

    still my little bro will be happy when I give him back his audigy next week.
     
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    That has nothing to do with this mod

    . . . well kinda

    creative might get mad that these drivers have been finished nearly now but they were the ones who did this to themselves for releasing the X-Fi Xtreme Audio

    I'm trying the drivers and they are very good, much better quality then the Audigy SE's with the X-Fi crystalizers and CMSS3D enabled on my seinnheser HD595's and 202's , They must be a very good upgrade for anyone who has a sound blaster live 24 bit but the system load will increase.

    now we move on to alchemy
     
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    I'd like this thread closed so we can start a new thread about the already complete drivers:toast:

    and probably deleted also so creative won't try to, well you know.
     

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