Australian goverment confirmed, FTTH for aussies!

[Sasqui]

thats what the idea is here with the fiber, govmt lays it down and any ISP is welcome to use it, all paying the same rates. no middlemen, true competition.

Nice! If only...

Sounds like the government will also recoup their investment over time by doing that, so everyone wins. Not in the US - Coorporations pay good money to keep competition away.

 

[Mussels]

Nice! If only...

Sounds like the government will also recoup their investment over time by doing that, so everyone wins. Not in the US - Coorporations pay good money to keep competition away.

the longer its in the better, fiber is fiber. its immune to water, no radio interference, and best of all - when you upgrade, you dont replace the cable, just the devices on either end.


so in 20 years time when we want 100Gb internet, bam, takes em an hour to upgrade it (per 32 houses, on each splitter)

 

[Triprift]

Nice! If only...

Sounds like the government will also recoup their investment over time by doing that, so everyone wins. Not in the US - Coorporations pay good money to keep competition away.

They will do wich is why i thought it was hilarious the Libs going on during the election about the cost like there option would of been better.

 

[Mussels]

They will do wich is why i thought it was hilarious the Libs going on during the election about the cost like there option would of been better.

they wanted to focus more on 3G, 'boosting speeds' by enabling us to connect multiple times at once (like wireless N) - yeah, lets oversaturate it even MORE >.<

 

[btarunr]

Often there's a catch when ISPs offer Z,OMG Mbps at mainstream subscription-rates. That only amounts to bandwidth within your country. To servers outside, the bandwidth drops drastically, sometimes even to 1/10 your advertised bandwidth, and as some already pointed out, the international data cables' bandwidth is limited.

For someone (along with everyone who's subscribed to the same plan) to truly experience advertised bandwidths, the country's international data links should keep up. Usually, when a country even adds a single undersea cable, it makes news at least in the IT sector, because a new undersea cable is just that big a deal, it's like building a new skyscraper or naval vessel.

New Zealand is perfect example of where the ISPs are making a loot selling ZOMG-Mbps plans, while the country's international data links are not able to keep up (so when accessing sites that have servers in Europe or the US, in peak hours, Kiwis never get close to advertised speeds. That's partly also because perhaps the country doesn't find it viable to lay new cables, its very far from US west coast.

 

[Mussels]

Often there's a catch when ISPs offer Z,OMG Mbps at mainstream subscription-rates. That only amounts to bandwidth within your country. To servers outside, the bandwidth drops drastically, sometimes even to 1/10 your advertised bandwidth, and as some already pointed out, the international data cables' bandwidth is limited.

For someone (along with everyone who's subscribed to the same plan) to truly experience advertised bandwidths, the country's international data links should keep up. Usually, when a country even adds a single undersea cable, it makes news at least in the IT sector.

New Zealand is perfect example of where the ISPs are making a loot selling ZOMG-Mbps plans, while the country's international data links are not able to keep up (so when accessing sites that have servers in Europe or the US, Kiwis never get close to advertised speeds. That's partly also because perhaps the country doesn't find it viable to lay new cables, its very far from US west coast.

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very true. thats why i'm hoping now that telstras insane prices are dropping, more people will host things locally (mirrors, servers, etc etc)

 

[Easo]

Well, Latvia is still in second place in world (lol, but yea...) Our dormitory have 100mbit , ~3$ a month...

Anyway, gratz! About time...

 

[Kreij]

Where I am in the US, we're stuck with two choices, Comcast broadband cable, or DSL.

Our options are dial-up or satellite. No cable, no dsl. We can do smoke signals if we want.

thats what the idea is here with the fiber, govmt lays it down and any ISP is welcome to use it, all paying the same rates. no middlemen, []btrue competition[/b].

Until the bribes start rolling in.

 

[Sasqui]

Often there's a catch when ISPs offer Z,OMG Mbps at mainstream subscription-rates. That only amounts to bandwidth within your country. To servers outside, the bandwidth drops drastically, sometimes even to 1/10 your advertised bandwidth, and as some already pointed out, the international data cables' bandwidth is limited.

For someone (along with everyone who's subscribed to the same plan) to truly experience advertised bandwidths, the country's international data links should keep up. Usually, when a country even adds a single undersea cable, it makes news at least in the IT sector, because a new undersea cable is just that big a deal, it's like building a new skyscraper or naval vessel.

Hey - they missed all the bandwidth used by the Nigerian lottery schemes!

 

[btarunr]

Hey - they missed all the bandwidth used by the Nigerian lottery schemes!

Nigerians make people millionaires over 56 kbps.

 

[Bo$$]

Nigerians make people millionaires over 56 kbps.

not in 2004

 

[Steevo]

Where I am in the US, we're stuck with two choices, Comcast broadband cable, or DSL.

The latter isn't even an option, a complete POS unreliable service. The former is expensive as shit and you don't get your money's worth but it's the only game in town. Comcast = Evil

What happened to anti trust laws and anti-monolpolies? We were supposed to get FIOS (fiber), but apparently the shit company "Fairpoint" that bought the local phone land system also owns the FIOS backbone here, and they're in bankrupcy court. They wouldn't have a clue how to roll it out anyway. What a f*cking mess.

We have the same thing here, Qwest DSL, for only $79 a month after your introductory rate for 7 X 1, I called and they promised to take off $20 a month for being a loyal customer and all, still not as good as a new customer. Before this I fought with the cable company, $129 a month for 8X1 with HD Cable, DVR, phone. They just never buried the cable, so it was strung across the alley where it got cut three times from them grading the alley. A few channels only had audio on the left speaker, and despite multiple calls nothing was ever done, and the fact they fucked me for 6 months as after I upgraded to HD about 80% of my channels went away. Then they had the balls to tell me it was my fault.

 

[Sasqui]

We have the same thing here, Qwest DSL, for only $79 a month after your introductory rate for 7 X 1, I called and they promised to take off $20 a month for being a loyal customer and all, still not as good as a new customer. Before this I fought with the cable company, $129 a month for 8X1 with HD Cable, DVR, phone. They just never buried the cable, so it was strung across the alley where it got cut three times from them grading the alley. A few channels only had audio on the left speaker, and despite multiple calls nothing was ever done, and the fact they fucked me for 6 months as after I upgraded to HD about 80% of my channels went away. Then they had the balls to tell me it was my fault.

Got some simliar Comcast Broadband and DSL horror stories. Let's move to Australia.

 

[Mussels]

i got a spare bedroom. first TPU'er to turn up here can rent it for $70/pw

(thats $70 Au, so like $3.50 USD )

 

[Sasqui]

i got a spare bedroom. first TPU'er to turn up here can rent it for $70/pw

(thats $70 Au, so like $3.50 USD )

Checking airfare right now

 

[Easy Rhino]

what gets me is that Aussie citizens have to wait for their government to decide whether or not they get what they want. it is a bit like that here in the U.S for things like nuclear power plants. yea know, things that are regulated because they impact the environment and are potentially deadly. and ultimately it is handled by the federal government, not the local authorities. with broadband, companies do not have to worry about too much regulation from preventing them competing for customers. (the FCC wants to change that with net neutrality but that is not my point.) the broadband companies are all regulated here at the local level. so you live in town X which only has one telecomm provider because the town government signed a 10 year exclusivity contract with that provider. most of these types of dealings are incredibly corrupt. you can only imagine the kind of money that secretly changes hands in this type of environment. keeping out all competition in your town is a huge win for a telecomm. if that were to happen at a federal government level there would be hell to pay. people want choices and they don't want others choosing for them.

 

[DannibusX]

Just so you know why us Aussies hate Telstra this is my phone line
It has been like this for years and we have given up ringing Telstra

Now I can only hope that I get FTTH where I live

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Dude. I would go bat-shit crazy if Verizon or Comcast tried to do that here.

You should email them a link to the Cable Management Helpdesk.

 

[wolf]

people want choices and they don't want others choosing for them.

thats how it has been in Aus for so long... you had to be with telstra in one way or another really, wether or not you actually rented the line from them.

you rent the line from your ISP who rents it from telstra wholesale, as oppose to the customer facing telstra.

that what made it suck to work for an isp for 18 months, people would call up with an insane amount of rage directed at us, when in reality it was completely telstas fault, however in the customers eyes, since they are our wholesaler, its still our fault. and when theres a middleman company like that they [telstra] turn into utter fuckheads about quick problem resolution, when it's a wholesaled line and not one directly through their customer base.

the only good thing was every now and then someone would call up with an issue like that, and I could explain it, and they would understand it wasn't 'our' fault, it was telstras and we could have a nice little chuckle about how much balls they suck.