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Best OS for WCG

Discussion in 'World Community Grid (WCG)' started by BarbaricSoul, Sep 2, 2014.

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Which OS should I use for a WCG Cruncher

  1. Win 7 Pro 64 bit

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  2. Win 8.1 Pro 64bit

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  3. A Linux Build (which one?)

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  1. BarbaricSoul

    BarbaricSoul

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    Ok, so I have my 2nd 3930k all assembled and in working condition. Only problem is I nuked my install of windows in the process (my guess, a lot of hard shut downs and reboots while diagnosing a hardware issue, turns out I had a stick of RAM die). So I'm forced to do a reformat and OS install for the 2nd 3930k system. So my question is which OS should I use? I have a copy of 7 Pro 64 bit available(tried and true OS I am very used to). I can buy a copy of 8.1 Pro 64 bit for about $40 though school(I really do not like the GUI of 8 or 8.1). Or I can try out a Linux OS for the first time(I've never used Linux before, probably should). So what do you think? What OS will yeild the best results as far as running on a WCG cruncher? The computer will pretty much only be used for crunching, unless something happens with my other 3930k system. The system will be comprised of the following parts-

    CPU- i7 3930k @ 4.3ghz under a Deep Cool Lucifer heatsink
    MB- ASUS P9X79 Deluxe
    RAM- 4 (1*4gb) Corsair Vengeance Blue DDR3 1600
    GPU- ASUS DirectCU HD7770
    PSU- Corsair TX850 (overkill I know, but it's all I have right now)
    HD- Seagate 7200.12 500GB 16mb cache
     
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  2. BarbaricSoul

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    please ignore my vote, I only cast a vote so that I can see the results without having to click the "see results" tab
     
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    brandonwh64 Addicted to Bacon and StarCrunches!!!

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    I have heard some people say linux is better than windows but this was before windows 8.1 so I would have to go to the experts on that one. If this machine is a cruncher ONLY then I would say do a free version of linux 64bit
     
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  4. Norton

    Norton WCG-TPU Team Captain

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    For a dedicated crunching rig I would go with Linux (Ubuntu or Mint). If you are going for a mixed use rig (crunching/folding) then go with 7 or 8.1.

    You should see at least 30% more ppd with Ubuntu ;)
     
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    If you're going to try Linux, try Mint. It's meant for those who are used to the Windows interface. That's not to say that Ubuntu is hard to understand, it's just different. I'm making the assumption that there is no difference in performance between the different versions of Linux.
    @Norton , as usual, hit the nail on the head in the previous post. At this time, you can not Fold under Linux with an AMD GPU (okay, it's possible, but it's really hard), but you can with a Nvidia GPU. (realatively easy)
    I'm voting for Linux, but I have to say that I have no knowledge when it comes to Windows 8/8.1.
     
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  6. BarbaricSoul

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    I installed Ubuntu
     
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    Go with Linux for pure CPU, Windows for GPU but there is no GPU work currently so...
     
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  8. Norton

    Norton WCG-TPU Team Captain

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    Which version? If 12.04 LTS I can assist with the "report results immediately" adjustment to the cc_config file. I'm not sure if it's the same process for the other versions?

    Also, psensor works ok as a general temperature monitor
     
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  9. BarbaricSoul

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    how in the hell do I run a program in ubuntu? Everytime I double click the icon to install WCG, ubuntu opens it with gedit. I don't want to edit the program, I want to run it. I'm installed ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS
     
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    I, ah, told you so.:laugh:
    I did the same thing. You have to go into the software manager and install it from there.
     
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    Ubuntu installs everything through the software manager or alternatively you could use the terminal. The software manager is really easy in that you just search for boinc and click install. The terminal will teach you how to use linux in more of a long term sense, and it is kind of cool. I think @Vinska was writing a nice guide for this.

    psensor and conky are your friends.
     
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    Yes got to the software manager and search for boinc. Install it it then it runs and is basically the same as the windows version.
     
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    software manager? where do I find that at? so far, I am very far from being impressed with ubuntu
     
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    Maybe its called application manager? Large icons on the left side of the screen.
     
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    Yeah, I tried that, it opened the file with gedit

    [​IMG]


    Hell with it, I'm going back to 7
     
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    Norton WCG-TPU Team Captain

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    Stick with it a bit longer- it's worth it! Better output and good stability await your efforts ;)

    EDIT- BOINC Manager 7.0.27 is available in the "Ubuntu Software Center" (in the LH menu) it runs fine on all of my Linux rigs
     
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    bee has offered to help me out on the phone, so I'll try it out with his help. Just got to get some charge on the phone before calling.
     
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    I'm seeing 7.2.42, and that is what I have been running.
     
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    Ubuntu is nice, cheap and stable. If you're building dedicated crunchers, free can't be beat. The only drawback is that if you don't know Linux (like me), troubleshooting is extremely difficult. :(
     
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    Well I got the system up and running yesterday. Seems I've been suffering from dyslexia everytime I would read about Boinc, as I've always read it as Bionic (no wonder why I was having issues installing it).

    Ok so now, I have another question. Is there a program like CPUZ that works with Ubuntu? I OC'ed the 3930k in the BIOs to the 4.3ghz I was running it at before with Windows 7, but all the system info apps I've tried show the CPU running at 3.2ghz (stock). I honestly do not think the CPU is running at the 4.3ghz I set it to run at because its' temps are 10'c lower than when it was running Windows.

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    let me search around. Ubuntu will just say display what it reads from the cpu's id. My 920 is oced and ubuntu reads the stock speed for it also. You may run a few degrees cooler with ubuntu as it actually is alot more efficient then windows is with Boinc. Also with my new crunching rigs that I plan to overclock, I run windows on it for a few days to burn it in good and monitor everything before I switch it over to Linux. I keep a drive with a base windows install and a boinc install just for this.


    Also from the command line you can run lscpu | grep "MHz" to show actual processor speed.

    And cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep "MHz" to show actual speed of each core.


    sudo dmidecode -t processor | grep "Speed". Will not only give you a MHz in use but also the Maximum you can push / overclock your CPU to.


    For the current CPU speed one can dynamically watch this change in real time using :
    sudo watch -n 1 cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu*/cpufreq/cpuinfo_cur_freq


    Okay thats enough for now. LOL
     
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    Command line? Where do I find that?
     
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    Ok, I figured out the command line thing, and I tried all the commands Shot said to do, and all of them show my CPU is running at 3.2ghz, yet in the BIOs, it is set to run at 4.3ghz. WTF? HELP PLEASE?
     
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    ctrl-x should pull up terminal for you or just go through software manager and type in terminal
     
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