Discussion in 'System Builder's Advice' started by shevanel, Jun 11, 2010.
i have z-2300's and i love them
While I do appreciate you linking me to a better deal, I still have to be honest I would probably feel awkward with cherry finish in my room.
Whether the Onkyo/Polk setup is worth the $200 greater price over the Kliipsch ProMedias depends on whether you have developed the hearing to appreciate it. In this arena, the phrase "ignorance is bliss" is profoundly true. At first you won't notice much of a difference between "typical" audio gear and more high-end stuff—actually, you probably will notice a difference you don't like because you are accustomed to a different sound (e.g. more peaky and bass-heavy frequency response, more subdued highs, etc.). But then you will start hearing things in your music that you have never before noticed, because the audio systems on which you previously heard them simply did not perform with such accuracy and sophistication of audiophile-grade gear.
So to some, $200 more is worth it. To some, it isn't. Worth $400 more? Not to anyone who knows what else is available for $400 more.
The Polk R50s have two 6.5" midrange drivers and one 1.75" tweeter (Polk specs page).
It was a joke. He's paying $200 more, but is getting back $400 more in sound.
TIGR, I do know what your are talking about. I can notice things with music, and sometimes I feel like the music doesnt sound as good on some days as others.. maybe when its quiet in my house and I listen at semi-low volume it seems loud (because i dont want to wake anyone and the volume is what i feel to be at max without distubance), but during the day when I can crank it I get unsatisfied... headphones though really sound amazing and i want that sound without headphones.. hard to explain
When I changed sound cards and headphones I started to explore my music as if I were listening to it with the common familiarity of the music but the music seemed like it was some overclocked, tweaked out version of what I usually listen to in the rediculously crappy speakers in my car.. I discovered things I never noticed before, cleaner sounding instruments, a visualization of the instruments position compared to others.
It was like going from a 27" Sanyo SD Tv to my 40" 1080P with bluray ya know?
I want that sound in my headphones to be in the air like I have a gigantic headset wrapped around my bedroom lol
They do the black finish but its 109 each, 218 for a pair - but you know its new and you are covered by warranty
Polk Audio Monitor 50 Black Two-way Floorstanding ...
I might be jumping the gun, but I've found a good Polk subwoofers too.
Polk Audio PSW Series PSW10 Black 10-inch Powered Subwoofer Each 35Hz - 200Hz, 100 watts $99
Polk Audio PSW Series PSW10 Black 10-inch Powered ...
I saw that sub here http://orlando.craigslist.org/ele/1783162684.html and sent an offer kinda. (kinda stacking my options here but w/e I might be able to score something, people have a hard time selling luxuries)
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If I get the polk speakers Ill wait a little to see if the used sub drops because of lack of interest.. if it doesnt or disappears then newegg it is. Might be 2-3 weeks before I could add a sub if I drop $200 on speakers and $125-200 on a receiver
Heh, since you guys helped me out so much I'll give you everything in my thread for $25 off (if u want it).. thats a ton of crap for 5, 20 dollar bills.
LOL I put an add on CL wanting stereo stuff... damn I really hate seeing these offers and having no clue what the quality of this stuff is..
Thats what i love about the net, 24/7 school
If you do buy it get the newegg one, its only $10 more with free shipping and has a warranty.
Polk Audio PSW Series PSW10 Black 10-inch Powered ...
BTW, I know that you are not comfortable with the cherry finish, but I was looking @ ebay and they've got a auction on the Polk R50s, only 5 hrs left and its @ $88 ATM. $50 delivery, if you bid wiseless you might be able to make a saving.
Im really scared of the cherry...
I would go from posting a thread and looking at promedia 2.1s for $150 @ BB... to searching aimlessly for onkyo/polk stuff.. to dropping much more than $150 @ BB to having speakers that cause me to move everything out of my room and strip my hardwood floors to refinish them to match the speakers... (if i fell in love with em lol)
a simple day of unsatisfactory music played aloud turns into a $1000 investment and Im still left with $189 entry level speakers lol
Exactly, you have to stick to your budget. Your original budget was $200, that can still be done, obviously you will not get Polks, but I can still find you some decent floorstanding speakers and receiver for a total of around $200 if thats what you would rather? it'll still sound better than PC speakers or those Promedia's.
You are not going to find much better receiver for $125. Make sure its in good condition, is that $125 shipped?
$125 can get you a pair of some nice Sony Floorstanding speakers, this does not have to be expensive!
Sony SS-F6000 a pair $125 free delivery
the guy with the onkyo TX SR603X 7.1 channel Receiver - $125 (local pickup) is texting me, its available..
Is this the rec. to go with, If the rec. is the most important part I could spend a little more....
i can probably squeeze $350ish on the R50's and the 603 if its going to be worth it.. the $200 was my budget when i was talking about PC sets.. and i wasnt wanting the 5.1 logitech z5500s or w/e so i set $200 as the cap
if there is a better reciever, Ill drop down on it if it's going to be a better investment.. and ill pick up speakers next weekend.
i want best bang for buck possible.. (the sonys are low priced indeed, you think the $75 saved by skipping the polks wont be too much of a audible sacrafice?)
The more expensive receivers come with technologies which are not needed at the moment like HDMI connections, Dolby TrueHD, DTS Masters, stuff which even most audiophiles will think is overkill. The onkyo TX SR603X, might even be too much for your needs, you only need a stereo receiver in actuality. The onkyo TX SR603X should retain its value because of its name so you could probably sell it in a year or two for a better receiver without losing money.
I actually have those Sony's myself lol, for the price they are good. In the AV world Sony is looked down on for not being luxurious enough but they usually do deliver for their price. The spec on it is amazing 2 x 6.5” woofers, 1x 3.25" woofer and a 1" tweeter, frequencies drop down to 40Hz.
It really depends on costs, spec wise the Polks are not much better than the Sony's, but if you want prestige, bragging rights then Polk is what you're after. Again as somebody else said above you really need a trained ear to notice the difference.
Remember this is your very first AV grade system so it doesn’t have to be the best, go to AVSforum.com and they are dropping like $2-10k just on speakers sometimes.
That makes a ton of sense, Those sonys could be the most I'd need.. Lol, look up the specs to my ada-305's and I think theyre loud and bassy but distort at high volumes, but for there size i guess its expected..
Those dual 6.5' x 2 will probably be more than I bargained for ya know.
My speakers sound pretty damn good when the volume is around 60% or so.. but jammin out is out of the question and i cannot here them through a window while outside with the dog
When you hear proper wooden bookshelf speakers, you'll never go back to regular speakers.
When your receiver arrives get the grips with the manual as you might have to do some tweaks to get it the way you want, you will not have a subwoofer so you will be wanting to apply cross over to redirect those LFE to the floorstanding speakers for extra bass.
This guy has the Sony SS-F6000's with the grill off connected to a Yamaha receiver, interesting watch http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIKmhQc6xQw
I run my sony's in a 5.1 environment so needs are slightly different from yours, when watching DVDs generally speaking I do not want the fronts too bassy otherwise it muddles the speech from my center speaker.
Sweet vid, Ill probably go with the sonys then.. seems like a good start.
Thanks for all the help, it's now time for bed. I am meeting the guy for the onkyo tomorrow at 6pm. Ill be back to this thread and let you know how things unfold.
thank to everyone that stopped by to give me all this info, truly appreciate it.
i cant wait to watch the hi def foo fighter concert from wembley stadium using the new speakers... esp the last song of the set.. its bad ass
Old Cerwin Vega's FTW. I had an old pair of CV's (mid 80's), and I swear to this day, they are the best speakers I ever owned. Wish I never sold them.
Yeah. I miss my old Vegas. I think they were VS series. They were 3 ways with 10's, and weighed a good 80lbs a piece. Had to sell them ages ago.
so i have arranged to pick up the onkyo 603 reciever for $125 and the Polk R50 new in box with black finish for $175 tomorrow in Orlando..
$300 aint bad eh? I hope they sound good lol
That's a damn good deal.
I hope so.. Ive been reading mixed reviews on the receiver as far as music goes.. most people love the R50 but I will probably need a sub down the line somewhere.
this guy is like 6 minutes from my house, I was wondering if anyone had thoughts on these. /he said he is willling to negotiate as he wants some other things i have here too..
What do u guys think compared to the Polk Monitor 50's?
The infinity speakers are better.
I'm heading over to his house after I send this. I really want to hear how they sound.. I figure if I get something like this I might just have a system that I might not outgrow so fast... I outgrow things rather quickly.
Going for seperate components, as you are, is totally the way to go.
For $350, those Infinity's are a steal...they were $699 a pair, here. You won't need a sub, unless going for a full HT set-up. A good receiver and a pair of bookshelf's are overkill for a bedroom...Floor standing is only better.
Bi-amp them using A/B channels, and you're good to go.
I picked up the Beta 50's. He ran them through a Marantz 2275 old school analog receiver...
when I listened to them nothing made be question whether or not I'd like them, they sounded awesome. I don't have anything to really compare them to from my own opinion but all that matered was the music sounded like perfect.
He was a cool dude too, he dropped the price to $300 for me and even loaded them up and followed me home since I drive a 2 wheeler.
the appointment to grab the Onkyo is at 8pm, it's an hour a way but I will gladly make that trip just to get these babies hooked up.
I hope I am making a good decision on this setup, especially with the receiver.
(He showed me something about the BI amp but I really don't know what the A/B is all about, Im sure with time I will get a grasp on it, Im excited about it though)
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