BFBC2:Vietnam - 6900 series cards and artifacts

[Mirmendis]

It seems all directx 11 cards need to be RMA :

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ErUESayd8Q

 

[DigitalUK]

by artifacts are we talking about what looks like little white specs in certains places, if we are its the dust particles. ive just run the demo on entry,performance and extreme.

in performance 720p you can see what i think people are saying is artifacts its the dust/pollen, its most noticable on entry level settings (also around the sunk sub and front of the deep sea sub white and the nuts on the submersable flicker abit)
on extreme none at or hardly notice.

im using a single 6970 (geniune)

 

[f0d]

still testing testing testing

no problems in these direct11 games/benchmarks
AVP benchmark
call of prypit benchmark
dirt 2 game
f1 2010 game
metro 2033

also tested
level-r
crysis
crysis warhead
unreal tournament
worms reloaded
mafia 2 demo and benchmark
just cause 2 demo and benchmark
cod:mw
race07/gtr evolution
section 8

all tested with as max AA as possible to stress as large amount of memory as possible
still the only artifacts are in the videos i posted
still testing as many different games as possible

by artifacts are we talking about what looks like little white specs in certains places, if we are its the dust particles. ive just run the demo on entry,performance and extreme.

in performance 720p you can see what i think people are saying is artifacts its the dust/pollen, its most noticable on entry level settings (also around the sunk sub and front of the deep sea sub white and the nuts on the submersable flicker abit)
on extreme none at or hardly notice.

im using a single 6970 (geniune)

yes it was the little white specs and it doesnt seem like its as much in extreme

from what i can tell hes running single card i didnt notice a plural in the OP so im guessing driver issue he could always try a fresh driver install see if it persists but i dont see a reason 2 if its only showing up in 1 particular demo run in 3dmark and on 1 map in BC2

yep single card - i have tried uninstalling/reinstalling also using driver sweeper a few times without change

But he has no artifact or issues in 3dmark 11, i have the same thing with my 6950 and my 5770

thanks for that - i think 3dmark11 might be another false positive as far as artifacts go

 

[DigitalUK]

ive also tested.

AVP benchmark
AVP full game at max everything
Dirt 2 Max everything
Battlefield bad company 2 max everything
MAFIA 2 full game and benchmarked max everything
Medal of honor (2010) max everything
Call of duty black ops max everything
need for speed hot pursuit max everything
UT max
Gtr evo max
and back to the future the game...lol (max settings)

all rock solid @ 1920x1080

also
H.A.W.K 2 benchmark
OCCT
Heaven bench
3dmark06,vantage and 11

 

[crazyeyesreaper]

yea if everything is else is fine your GPU is fine man just crappy release drivers thats all

 

[erocker]

Okay, I think your card is fine. They aren't artifacts. Truth be told I see them with my GTX 580 (on certain maps occasionally) and I saw them with my 5850 in ATi's latest driver. Thing is since it's happening to two different brands of cards I'm deducting that it is an issue with Windows, DirectX 11, or the game and benchmark itself. The "white snow" is definitely being rendered and you can clearly tell in 3DMark 11 that even DOF and/or blur effects are being applied to them.

still testing testing testing

no problems in these direct11 games/benchmarks
AVP benchmark
call of prypit benchmark
dirt 2 game
f1 2010 game
metro 2033

also tested
level-r
crysis
crysis warhead
unreal tournament
worms reloaded
mafia 2 demo and benchmark
just cause 2 demo and benchmark
cod:mw
race07/gtr evolution


all tested with as max AA as possible to stress as large amount of memory as possible
still the only artifacts are in the videos i posted
still testing as many different games as possible



yes it was the little white specs and it doesnt seem like its as much in extreme


yep single card - i have tried uninstalling/reinstalling also using driver sweeper a few times without change

 

[Kaali]

I have it to in BBC2 and BBC2 vietnam hope it's just drivers issue , because since i have my crossfire 6950 i have just running the 6950 unlock shader , never use the 6970 bios !

 

[f0d]

thank you very much for the help guys i think my card is fine - i just freaked when i saw artifacts i think

 

[Kaali]

Yeah i guess we all find bug because we care about our bios modding ^^ when normal people don't think about it ! But when you look for something ... you find it

 

[MxPhenom 216]

I get that same stuff on my GTX470 guys

 

[TheMailMan78]

So yall are talking about the white specs that pop in sometimes?

 

[Kaali]

And could someone tell me if you get the fast black lightning screen when you are in zoom mod on weapon when you have fps 100+ , i try to record with fraps but my fps fall down 30 and i don't have it anymore with fraps running wierd wierd wierd


Edit : maybe it's a display issue i have a crapy AOC 21" lcd display :s

 

[DarthElvis]

My moneys on driver issues. The 69xx is not properly supported yet. All we have is modded 10.11 drivers right now (that's what the supposed 'hot-fixes' are, don't let anyone tell you different). Shouldn't be long until 11.1, hopefully the Cat team doesn't fuck it up.

 

[Bjorn_Of_Iceland]

The white specs that shows up between a matrix' node? The ones between 2 texture square?

 

[EzyRyder]

It happens on Nvidia cards as well, so its probably a game issue.

 

[Wijkert]

You are not alone f0d, I was freaking out as well. I modded to 6970 bios and back because I saw those artifacts. After reading this thread I realized that it is quite possible that I actualy tried to find evidence that my card was damaged. I have reproduced all the artifacts that you have shown in your youtube video's, and succeeded.

The first time I opted that it might be a driver issue, most people were telling me that I was wrong, but maybe I was not.

I agree that it is best to wait for 11.1 and see if some/all glitches will be fixed.

 

[TheMailMan78]

My money is on Drivers. I have got them on my 5850.

 

[sliderider]

Well I wish ya luck man. I'm waiting for the 7xxx series. IMO both camps failed us this round.

I wouldn't go that far. AMD hasn't even released it's high end part yet. Wait until 6990 gets here and try it out before declaring the high end a complete failure. 6990 is going to crush GTX580. Also keep in mind that both companies are doing stop gap releases now until 28nm comes online.

I also think AMD has done extremely well in the next market segment down with the 6850 and 6870. Delivering last generations high end performance to that market was brilliant. nVidia has nothing that effectively competes there, at least not at reference specs. Some of the highest overclocked GTX460 cards are up in that area but can be pricier. I got my 6870 for less than they get for the Talon Attack and FTW cards and they barely keep up in most of the tests I've seen. GTX465 and 470 will only be available until stock is depleted so nVidia is left needing a card(s) to compete with the HD6800 cards at reference clock speeds. If GTX560 is going to be marketed more towards 6950 in terms of price and performance, which is the current rumor, what will fill that gap when GTX460 is retired?

AMD also needs to refresh or replace the 5700 cards. 5750 and GTS450 are battling against each other pretty well but 5770 has been overtaken by GTX460 SE, and with overclocking the 460 SE destroys it. A speed boost is needed in that segment for the AMD cards to distinguish themselves again. nVidia also needs to replace the first generation Fermi based parts in that segment to GTX500 based designs. The sooner they move out all the first generation Fermi based parts, the better.

Below that, other than updating to GTX500 based parts, nVidia looks pretty good but AMD is a mess. There's too many part numbers down there clamoring for the budget bucks. Some consolidation needs to take place. I don't think we really need 5450, 5550, 5570, and 5670 all down there competing against GT430. Yeah, nVidia supplies a few different OEM boards in that segment but you can't buy those at retail. AMD has too many parts at retail in the under $100 segment so a few of them should go. HD5450 is dirt cheap and can be found for under $40 so that one should stay but the others are within a few dollars of each other in price and 5670 delivers the best performance of the three, so I think the 5500 cards. 5670 can be put on a low profile board (MSI makes one), so there's not much reason not to sell it or a low power variant to the HTPC market over the 5500 cards. AMD recommends a 400W PSU for all of them, anyway, including the 5450 so you probably aren't saving much on power by choosing a 5500 over a 5670. It doesn't even require external power, so what advantage is there in buying a 5500? To save $10?

 

[TheMailMan78]

I wouldn't go that far. AMD hasn't even released it's high end part yet. Wait until 6990 gets here and try it out before declaring the high end a complete failure. 6990 is going to crush GTX580.

I also think AMD has done extremely well in the next market segment down with the 6850 and 6870. Delivering last generations high end performance to that market was brilliant. nVidia has nothing that effectively competes there, at least not at reference specs. Some of the highest overclocked GTX460 cards are up in that area but can be pricier than the AMD cards. I got my 6870 for less than they get for the Talon Attack and FTW cards and they barely keep up in most of the tests I've seen. nVidia definitely needs a card to compete with them at a more relaxed clock speed and if GTX560 is going to be marketed more towards 6950 in terms of price and performance, what will fill that gap when GTX460 is retired?

AMD also needs to refresh or replace the 5700 cards. 5750 and GTS450 are battling against each other pretty well but 5770 has been overtaken by GTX460 SE. A speed boost is needed in that segment for the AMD cards to distinguish themselves again. nVidia also needs to replace the Fermi parts in that segment to GTX500 based designs. The sooner they move out all the first generation Fermi based parts, the better.

Below that, other than updating to GTX500 based parts, nVidia looks pretty good but AMD is a mess. There's too many part numbers down there clamoring for the budget bucks. Some consolidation needs to take place. I don't think we really need 5450, 5550, 5570, and 5670 all down there competing against GT430. Yeah, nVidia supplies a few different OEM boards in that segment but you can't buy those at retail. AMD has too many parts at retail in the under $100 segment so a few of them should go.

4850 to 5850 was win.
5850 to 6950 is fail.

Pound for pound the 6950 is trash man IMO as is the rest of the series.

 

[f0d]

My money is on Drivers. I have got them on my 5850.

yeah i think its the drivers too now - just got kinda freaked when i noticed artifacts that were still there even after i flashed back to a standard 6950

i have found another glitch thats probably drivers related in one of ati's own demos
http://developer.amd.com/samples/demos/pages/RadeonHD6900SeriesRealTimeDemos.aspx

just before the robot hits the ground at the end of the demo there is a frame or a few frames that are just plain ugly but it flashes up fast
and there is a red "star" in the sky as the robot is falling from the building and looking up that im not sure if it should be there

 

[boise49ers]

4850 to 5850 was win.
5850 to 6950 is fail.

Pound for pound the 6950 is trash man IMO as is the rest of the series.

Could that be because that was the last card you bought I have a 6870 and I'm extremely happy with it. Drivers aside it way out performs my 4870 and the price was a lot cheaper then what I paid for the 4870. I got both the week they were released so I paid about max price, though the 6870 has jumped a little since then.

 

[TheMailMan78]

Could that be because that was the last card you bought I have a 6870 and I'm extremely happy with it. Drivers aside it way out performs my 4870 and the price was a lot cheaper then what I paid for the 4870. I got both the week they were released so I paid max price, though the 6870 has jumped a little since then.

If you are going from a 4870 to a 6970 then ya thats a nice upgrade. However its a joke if you own a 5850 or 5870. I mean a 5850 will destroy a 4870.

 

[f0d]

If you are going from a 4870 to a 6970 then ya thats a nice upgrade. However its a joke if you own a 5850 or 5870. I mean a 5850 will destroy a 4870.

i went from gtx260 to a 6950 and it was a big upgrade for me

i agree that the jump from 58XX cards to 69XX cards wasnt much of a jump but there wasnt much they could do at 40nm again except make what they allready had bigger and better

but both sides did the same thing - the gtx580 isnt much of an improvement over a gtx480 either

 

[EzyRyder]

As I said this is happening all over with nVidia and AMD cards so if its a driver issue it is affecting both nVidia and AMD cards, seeing as it is quite a new game (Vietnam that is) and that the original game works fine I will be inclined to think it is a game issue but it might well be a driver issue for both nVidia and AMD.

 

[Mirmendis]

yeah i think its the drivers too now - just got kinda freaked when i noticed artifacts that were still there even after i flashed back to a standard 6950

i have found another glitch thats probably drivers related in one of ati's own demos
http://developer.amd.com/samples/demos/pages/RadeonHD6900SeriesRealTimeDemos.aspx

just before the robot hits the ground at the end of the demo there is a frame or a few frames that are just plain ugly but it flashes up fast
and there is a red "star" in the sky as the robot is falling from the building and looking up that im not sure if it should be there

Compare with this video, same red star
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RlsZjYh78DY

Your card is definitily ok