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Blu-ray Disks Outsell HD-DVD Disks By 3-1 in Europe

Discussion in 'News' started by zekrahminator, Nov 27, 2007.

  1. Easy Rhino

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    from the article...

    so unless you guys can find another independent study with different numbers you pretty much have to assume these are numbers accurate.

    on another note, ive noticed just about every retailer gives equal space to HD DVD and blu-ray.
     
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    Alright, alright, hold up a minute.


    What bias are you talking about? I said I favored 300, not either one of the formats. I can find five independent movie reviews in the next ten minutes that agree with me that 300 is an extremely awesome movie. If it really bothers you that much, I'll change it to "the extremely successful movie 300." However, little unrelated things like that keep the news section interesting, in my opinion, and separate TPU from the other sites that only throw in PRs and "company X sues company Y" type garbage :).
     
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    But it is, even on 30-40 inch screens it is noticeable, you simply can't argue your point here because it's completely invalid. There is a huge difference between HD and SD material, really massive - I can't watch DVDs on my HD screens anymore because I know how much better it can be. Not only that but the audio too is much improved, better than the cinema by far.

    As for the "it's not like the difference between VHS and DVD" argument, that's not a valid comparison. Back then we were considering the difference it made moving from analogue to digital storage, now we are talking about higher resolutions and bitrates, as well as improved encoding technology.
     
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    Don't play dumb Zek you know full well what I mean. The fact that the article in the link states that there is an attach rate of 12 Blu-Ray discs per player is just plain bullshit, you know it and I know it.
     
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    Simma down now!!!
     
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    You really need to calm down :laugh:

    Furthermore, how would know?

    Lastly, it may be true. Every time you buy a Blu-Ray player you get 5-15 free (I've seen offers of anywhere from 5 to 15 free) Blu-Ray movies, plus whatever other Blu-Ray movies you buy before you get the "free" movies in the mail. The new 40gb PS3 comes with a free Blu-Ray movie itself. It becomes very easy to believe this may be true. What's more, I have 6 Blu-Ray movies right now and I don't even have a damn HDTV (I just bought my PS3 Friday, so there's a 6 attachment rate). If I had a HDTV I would probably have 12 ;)

    My advice to you, don't just assume something is false just because YOU can't BELIEVE that this could be happening.
    :wtf:
     
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    HD DVD gives out 5 free HD DVDs with every purchase same as Blu Ray and the highest I have ever heard for free movies for Blu Ray was 5 free with each purchase so then why would the attachment rate for HD DVD be 3.8. Does that ring any bells now?:slap:

    And also just so you know it says that there is an attach rate of 12 GAMES per PS3 in the articles link which we can all agree is false It isnt even refferring to movies
     
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    Yes, but that's an AVERAGE. They're not saying each person buys 12 games, they're saying with those numbers, that's what the average is however some people are buying more games than others.
     
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    Ya blu-ray... I am going to get one on the drives when they become cheap for the blue laser!
     
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    Maybe some idiots don't know about it or HD DVD doesn't push that.

    As far as games that totally concerns this, if PS3 games sell well that means Blu-ray has to live so it doesn't matter if it loses in movies, there will always be Blu-ray media out.
     
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    Sure but then the vast majority i.e more than 50 % of them are buying more than 12 games for their PS3 I thought that the PS3 was lagging behind in both software and hardware sales at least here in the U.S. Last I checked the attach rate here in the U.S. was maybe 2 games per PS3 not 12 or more on average.
     
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    I currently have 5 games, but I'm a single player junky (mostly because my internet sucks). This article is also referring to Europe, so the U.S. sales aren't in question.
     
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    Then maybe they are referring to game rentals because I just cant see very many people buying 12 $60 games in Europe since March 2007 currently after all 60 Euros is worth more than what the U.S. dollar is
     
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    yea, that seems a bit out of the ordinary. i bet most ps3 owners bought 6 games all year. and then maybe a small percentage bought more than 10 games.
     
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    ...No, I don't. I'm not responsible for making sales figures, all I do is report them. If you have an issue with the guys that made the sales figures, take it up with them.
     
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    Do you beleive everything that the article states Zek? Because if you don't then why did you put it in the news section
     
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    why does this article offend so many people? sure, zek put a little bit of bias into his writeup, but he didnt make up the numbers. if you have an issue with numbers take it up with the author of the article and leave zek alone!!!
     
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    Yeah guys, I've got two school projects to bullshit and customs forms to fill out, leave me be.
     
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    I agree 100%. I used to think my DVDs upconverted to 720p looked great, but then I bought my HD-DVD add on, and the difference was amazing. The difference was even more substantial if I compared HD DVD to a DVD that wasn't upconverted.

    I would absolutely say the picture quality difference is comparable to the difference between VHS and DVD.
     
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    And yet HD sales as a total pale in comparison to DVD

    [quote-Davidelmo]Seriously, no-one in the UK cares at all. For the vast majority of people, watching a DVD is just fine on their ~40 inch TV. The difference between DVD and HD=DVD/BluRay just isn't huge enough to warrant spending £600 on a BluRay player.

    I think neither format will "win." Both will continue to lag behind ordinary DVD sales until they are both cheap enough to co-exist.[/quote]

    Where in the world are you getting your prices from. You are aware that the PS3 is a blu-ray player arn't you and it can be bought for £300 (or less if you look around).

    The difference in picture quality between a DVD movie and the same movie on Blu-ray is easily apparent. I fail to see how you couldn't see the difference between the two especially if they were playing next to one another.

    Whether its worth the money is subjective.
     
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    Sorry my manual quoting didn't work there. I think its just about clear what I was trying to say

    (I can't edit my own posts so if a mod could kindly change the - to a = that would be great.
     
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    Here is another article that echoes my previous post.

    Summary:
    -HD has sold 750,000 stand alone players
    -BR has sold between 400,000-500,000 stand alone players
    -2+ mill PS3 are not dedicated players and people are not buying them to play BR movies
    -HD sold at a much lower price then BR is gaining momentum.
     
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    Thank you for saying that way better than I could east coast lol:laugh::laugh::laugh:
     
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    effmaster used the wrong words... but I think he had the right sentiment... which is:

    1./ Lets keep interesting tech NEWS in NEWS

    2./ Lets keep marketing spin OUT of NEWS. If you want to post it, put it in General Nonesense

    3./ NEWS posters have a responsibility to make a judgement on 1. and 2. when posting

    4./ MODERATORS are loved and respected. That love and respect is lost if they dont do 3.

    5./ We dont want unloved unrespected MODS, so, PLEASE, do 3.
     
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    Good luck. Every news article that I have ever read in my life has some sort of spin to it.
    So no more new tech hardware release info in NEWS?
    They all have marketing spin.
     

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