:shadedshu I should send it back for another I wanted L3 O well, but hey this thing is really zippy stock. It's not what my QX9650 was, but it's a really nice chip for 100 dollars so far. I also have not OCed it yet, as I'm still getting everything installed..... What was funny was during my install I grabbed an old DVD-ROM, and inside as my Vista DVD that I lost about a year ago......... I think I even threw away the case with the KEY simply because I thought I sent it out with a machine in the PC Shop....... My ASUS Evo board is SUPER NICE! Side port memory, and it's own instant O/S at boot! One thing so far is that TPU GPU-OC tool says WTF to a 4200 along with GPU-Z(well I didn't get a chance to use the new GPU-Z yet) I'll post more as I go along!