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  1. Hydrashok New Member

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    Hey guys... I'm trying to build a a new pc that i can game with, although i admit it's mostly so i can play Oblivion. My wife is giving me hell that i'm spending so much to play one game... but i assured her that if i can benchmark my new system to run oblivion... it'll probably run anything for at least 2 years :) i was originally trying to do this under 500 dollars. i have since found out... that's not gonna happen... but i'm trying to get as close as possible. this is what i've come up with.


    REFURBISHED: ASRock 939Dual-SATA2 Socket 939 ULi M1695 ATX AMD Motherboard - OEM
    -i understand it's a versatile board running pci express as well (38.70 + s/h)

    CORSAIR ValueSelect 1GB (2 x 512MB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM Unbuffered DDR 400 (PC 3200) Dual Channel Kit System Memory - Retail
    -tried to get a name brand... but cheap at the same time :) (79.99 + s/h)

    SAPPHIRE 100106L Radeon X850XT 256MB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail
    -took me forever to figure this one out... so far this seems to be the most bang for the buck (164.00 + s/h)

    AMD Athlon 64 Processor 3200+* 939pin OEM
    -not much to add here... didn't want to go as cheap as the 3000 or sempron.. but couldn't afford to up much more either. (115.88 + s/h)

    Hitachi 160GB 0A31637 SATAII U300 7200rpm 8MB Hard Drive
    -was originally set for a 300 gb sata... but in order to cut 40 bucks... had to settle w/ this one. (63.86 + s/h)

    and finally for the case and psu... i went w/

    Black Logisys Case-51 UFO Computer Case, w/ 80mm RGBY LED Fan, 450W Power Supply, USB2.0,
    -was originally going to buy psu and case seperate... but w/ shipping and handling.. it was really a crazy amount... i checked this one out w/ alot of good reviews so, so far this is it. (32.50 + s/h)

    i'm also planning on getting a pci express power converter.. and a few case fans as well.

    right now i'm at 547.60 incl shipping and handling but not including the fans and converter... and if at all possible i'd like to shave some of that off....

    but what do you guys think... any input is appreciated...
    thanx

    :cool:
     
  2. killatia New Member

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    ditch the readeon and get a geforce 7600gt
     
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    I think that x850xt should be an NVIDIA so you get shader 3.0 support. Maybe a 6800gs? Also, buy a PSU seperate so you get reliability.
     
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    get the x850xt. the 7600gt has less power then the x850xt so hdr isnt even worth it.
    for the rest it seems good.
     
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    nothing wrong with what u have picked.. bang for buck its about right.. at least u havnt wasted money on things that u dont need..

    i could perhaps spend a little more but not knock much off.. i think the x1800xt 256 meg is a good buy at the moment.. but if the budget dont stretch it dont stretch..

    trog

    ps.. not cos it has sm3 either.. just cos it has more grunt..
     
  6. Hydrashok New Member

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    ya i had heard that the x850xt was more powerful... just no hdr... and i'm not really looking to run at max settings (although i don't think NASA could run it at max settings) and the 7600 was costing about an extra 10 to 20.

    any ideas on a good value psu?
     
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    the TT 420W psus are great and are $40 of newegg. 18a @12v and rock solid all the time. you arnt running a high end comp so it should be just fine. (i have 4 personally..)
     
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    ya... i've been looking at that it's just that's it's like 40 + s/h for a psu and then 20 or 30 for a case plus + s/h... means i've added like 50 bucks :(

    i did also see this
    COOLER MASTER eXtreme Power RS-430-PMSR/P Max: 400W, Peak: 430W Power Supply - Retail
    has 2 sata's as well for 33.95 for s/h... but it's still about the same idea... really wish i could find case plus good psu for a good price

    -btw damn you oblivion and ur hold on me!
     
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    forget that Radeon and get something else! and i would go for at least teh 3500+
     
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    that x850xt is a good buy. i like all the rest of the parts to it seems to be a good set up with some good power at a good price. happy gaming
     
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    thanx ootay... and i really appreciate all of your insights
     
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    i've been thinking of just going w/ the 64 3000 instead of the 3200 anyone know if it's that big of a difference?
     
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    and i should point out... it's a 3000 venice.. not winchester.. and that the reason is i just figured out that oem=no heatsink/fan :(

    i'm new to this :)
     
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    Well you could always OC the 3000 to the 3200, but there isnt too much of a performance difference esp. if you are mainly using this comp for games. The things that really matter for games is your GPU and RAM. If you could I would suggest getting 2x 1GB modules since Oblivion could def. use that and 2 x 1GB modules you can easily get for around $135 (Monarch Computers and Newegg check out). I just suggest this since games will def. demand more than 1GB to play smoothly.

    But no matter what I def. suggest you get a good PSU....The ones that comes with the cases suck and sometimes blows the whole system up. Look for a 450W PSU made by Thermaltake, OCZ, Antec (Take a look at the Antec SmartPowers, they are cheap and reliable).

    Otherwise looks good.
     
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    What!!!!! the 850xt will bury the 7600 in its sleep, he is talking "Bang for Buck" not SM3.0.
     
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    If you get lucky the 3000 venice will overclock as good (ish) as the 3200 or within just 50Mhz so its no big deal to downgrade and save yourself a bit. If you buy the OEM version get yourslef a cheap (but damn brilliant) Glaciertech Igloo AMD7200 cooler, they are only £6.80 in UK so probably $10 US and I overclocked my venice to 2500 and never went abouve 45C with that little baby!
     
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    thanks bruins.....

    adding the extra ram would cost me about an extra 50... which i can't seem to pull off right now. althought the board does have 4 dimm slots... so i can still add on later right?

    still undecided on power supply and case.... i need both... and by the power supply suggestions here... the smartpowers are in the 50 to 60 range.. and i would still need a case... whereas i'm paying 40 ish for a case and cpu. i know you guys warn about cheap psu's.. but this one in particular was getting good reviews on newegg.... but any ideas on a value priced reliable psu and a really cheap case would be great...
     
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    thanks for the posts tatt... i've actually referenced alot of your posts while google'ing for research on that very idea...

    :)
     
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    would anyone mind dumbing down the "12 volt rail" thing for me... i keep reading about it... but i don't understand it.

    looking at the fsp (fortron) 400 watt... has dual sata and my pci express... for about 40... seems to have good reviews.... though then i'd be in the market for a very cheap case...
     
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    Lol....I'm famous!:roll: (which idea? the glaciertech Igloo?)
     
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    Have a look for budget Antec cases, some come with their own brand PSU fitted (but not many) generally Antec produce decent cases and stable PSU's and I would think that as a package you might save a bit. Think you are doing the right thing with the reviews, rarely but sometimes you will find a cheap PSU with a really good reputation/value for money and if it has 30 4 or 5 star reviews just go for it, did you specify earlier a rating? you will need at least 400W preferably 450-500.
     
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    Sorry yes you did...just checked....I'll shut up!
     
  23. Hydrashok New Member

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    lol nah... i've seen you pushing the x850 alot


    :)
     
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    also... just realized..

    i'm using a KDS-190i Visual Sensations 19 monitor using an analog connection.. will i need a new monitor or do they make dvi/analog adapters?
     
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    The x850xt comes with an adapter for older monitors.
     

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