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  1. Vilius

    Vilius New Member

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    Hello.
    So I thought it was time to build a new PC. And so after a day of research and with help from my friends and mine shallow knowledge I made a list. The problem is I am not quite sure if it's a good list :)
    Also I have some money left and if you guys think that something needs upgrading tell me. Like I said I am open to ideas.
    I am planing to play the newest games with it. Like GTA 5, Bf4, AC4

    Ok here goes.

    Processor:
    - Intel Core i5 4670K (http://ark.intel.com/products/75048/ )

    Motherboard(I'm not sure which one should I get since i don't really understand what is the difference):
    - MSI B85M-G43 (this one is cheaper) (http://eu.msi.com/product/mb/B85M-G43.html )
    - Gigabyte GA-Z77-D3H(http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4140#ov )

    Graphic card:
    - CLUB3D AMD HD7850 2gb (http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Club_3D/HD_7850_RoyalQueen/ )

    RAM:
    - DDR3 Kingston HyperX blu 8GB(2x4GB) (Kingston HyperX Blu 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDR... )

    Power supply:
    I haven't picked one yet. My friend says that I should get at least 700w. I would like for it to be quiet.

    SSD(lack of knowledge I don't know which one i should pick):
    - SSD Kingston V300 120GB (Kingston SSDNow V300 Series SV300S37A/120G Solid ... )
    - SSD Kingston HyperX 3K 120GB (Kingston HyperX 3K SH103S3B/120G Solid State Driv... )

    HDD(once again I'm not sure about this open to ideas):
    - WD Blue 3.5'' 1TB SATA3 7200RPM 64MB (Western Digital WD Blue WD10EZEX 1TB 7200 RPM 64MB... )

    Case(I need one but i haven't picked one out yet. If anyone has any ideas share them)

    I would be grateful for you help.

    EDIT.

    Ok I'm done and the price is higher than I expected so I think I'm going to wait for a month or two, like DarkOCean said the price might go down in that time.
    Anyway if anyone is interested this is the build:

    - Processor: Intel Core i5 4670K
    - Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87MX-D3H (not sure about this, I went a bit cheap on this)
    - Video card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7950 (I might pick Geforce gtx 760 if it turns out cheaper)
    - RAM: Kingston HyperX blu 8GB(2x4GB) (couldn't find anything cheaper)
    - Power supply: PSU Corsair CX 750W (I liked how it looked and it was cheap enough)
    - SSD: Samsung 840 Evo 120gb (seemed like a good idea)
    - HDD: WD Blue 3.5'' 1TB SATA3 7200RPM (same one)
    - CPU Cooling: Corsair H55 Cooler (looks cool and advanced :D )
    - Case: - (still couldn't pick one)

    I'm still going to build this or something close to it. So feel free to criticize it. :p
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  2. ruff0r

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    Please tell us your budget.

    CPU: Is Very good
    Motherboard: Well since i am an Asus fan boy i would tell you to get an Asus one but before that. The Motherboards you posted do not Support your CPU you need Socket 1150.
    If you want to Overclock you will need at least an Z87 Chipset. Maybe something like that?ASUS GRYPHON Z87

    Graphic card: As said your CPU will do the trick pretty good , but the card you have chosen isn´t going to make you happy with bf4 or bf3 the link you provided to the review already states that the card will do only 40.8FPS in bf3.
    You want to stay above 60fps to have a smooth experience.
    I recommend: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 770 2 GB or AMD Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3 GB.
    Note that Nvidia has a slight advantage in bf3 fps wise what it will be in bf4 we do not know yet. But if i may presume ATI since the pc´s showing bf4 demos were running 7990´s.

    Ram: 8gb ram is enough. Try to get any cheap ram that is 1600mhz and cl 9 timings.

    Power supply:
    Then it shall be Quite! PURE POWER L8 | 630W CM
    SSD: I recommend Samsung 840 120gb or Samsung 840 Pro 128gb
    HDD: For storage WD is a good brand a blue drive should do it´s job

    Case: well this is hard. Chose a case that you like to look at ! While being able to fit your pc in it properly. Depending on your Motherboard you will have to adjust the case size to it .
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    Fourstaff Moderator Staff Member

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    Right, first things first: Z87 board is practically a must, unless you know you are not overclocking (in which case why get a K chip?). MSI GD65 Gaming is a good choice, along with Gigabyte UD3H. GD45 is an ok choice if you want to scrimp.

    As for graphics card, at least 660Ti/7950 for 1080p, anything lower its not really worth the money.

    Ram looks fine

    If you are not planning to run dual graphics 500w is more than enough. Plenty of brands to choose from, depending on availability. Generally Corsair, Antec, Super Flower, Seasonic, etc.

    A good start to look for good SSDs: http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/ssd-recommendation-benchmark,review-32767.html

    Corsair 300R is a good start if you are looking for cases. You can go from there, looking for bargains, features you might want/need, looks, etc.
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    You correctly picked the 4th generation "Haswell" i5-4670K, which is the best CPU for gaming, but then you looked at a cheap B85 motherboard, which is a business-class chipset and doesn't allow overclocking your unlocked CPU. You need a socket 1150/Z87 board, and don't get the cheapest one or you won't get a stable overclock. The Gigabyte Ga-Z77-D3H is socket 1155, 3rd gen CPU, not compatible with 4670K. Spend at least $150 on the motherboard, it's not an area where you want to go cheap - everything depends on the mobo working right. Power supply choice is also very important, a cheap one can take out you whole system when it fries, so get a name brand (Corsair, Seasonic, XFX, EVGA, etc.) 700-750w to allow for headroom/future upgrades/more drives. For SSD, I recommend Sandisk Extreme II, Samsung 840 Pro, or Corsair Neutron GTX. For SSD capacity, the 250/256 GB models are best if you want to load a lot of new games (a 128 GB drive will quickly fill up with games at 6 to 10 GB per game), and they're also a little faster than their 128 GB counterparts. For a hard drive, get at least a 1TB, they're only $10-20 more than the 500 GB, and WD Blue or Black is best. For cases, look at Corsair, NZXT, and Fractal Design for some of the best cases (make sure it will fit the mobo you pick [ATX or Micro ATX]). Obviously some more research is in order, but that's the fun part...
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  5. BarbaricSoul

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    here's my build suggestion.

    http://pcpartpicker.com/p/1yGf8

    First off, let me say I used PC Part Picker to make my suggested build. If you live in the US, I highly suggest you use it for find your parts, whether you use my build suggestion or not. It price matches all the top E-tailers that deliver to the US. You'll easily get the best prices available for the hardware you choose. Also, when making your list of hardware, it will also look for compatibility issues like your original motherboard choice of the Z77 gigabyte board that will not work with a 4670k CPU.

    CPU- like others have already stated, the 4670k is a very good choice for a gaming CPU that allows for OC'ing.

    MB- the Z87x DH3 is a low priced motherboard that will allow for a good OC on your CPU

    Cooling- I recommended the Corsair H60 all in one water cooling unit for it's simple installation and no required maintenance. It will be more than adequate for 4.5ghz OC on your 4670k.

    Video Card- $180 for a 7950? that is a "no-brainer" IMHO

    RAM- Picked purely for it's cost. Corsair Vengeance RAM is very stable and reliable.

    SSD- I recommended the Samsung 840 EVO for it's price and performance. Samsung are making some of the best SSDs right now with it's 840 line-up. The 840 EVO may not be as fast as the 840 PRO , but I feel the PRO's faster times isn't really worth extra cost. You may want to consider getting a 250-256gb model if you plan on storing the majority of games on it and can afford the extra costs.

    HD- Just a simple 1tb hard drive for storing your music, videos, and other files on.

    PSU- Like Fourstaff said, a quality 500 watt model is plenty power for this build, unless you plan on adding a second video card in the future for an upgrade. Seasonic is reguarded as one of, if not the, best PSU manufacturers there are. I was originally going to recommended a 500-550 watt model, but the 750 watt Seasonic in my build suggestion for only $60 is a extremely good deal.
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  6. Vilius

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    First of all Thanks to everyone who replied. Its going to take a while to look trough all of it and when I do i will post again. Just so you know guys I am living in Lithuania(Europe) and I might not find everything that I need in shops here and I don't really want to ship from somewhere else. For now I will answer the questions I can.

    Well the best I can pull is 1500 $. But that would be all of my savings and i don't really want to do that so let's say 1200-1300$


    The thing is I am not going to play Bf3 or 4 since I don't really like shooters I just want something that would let me play games with that kinds of graphics.

    Well I am thinking that I will be overclocking once I learn how to do that. So I guess I will be getting Z87 board.


    I might want to upgrade later on. And I don't want to get some random brand and hope it works fine. I want something that has been tested.

    Edit.
    BarbaricSoul I live in Europe.
    As for RAM it was the cheapest i could find :D

    Edit 2.
    If I have some money left I would like to get a monitor as well. And I read somewhere that i shouldn't settle for anything but 27'
    I will have to do some research. Open to ideas :)
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    I'm not familiar with Lithuania's shops, you will have to look around for what is best bang/buck in your area. Give us a list if you are lost. As for monitor, I personally prefer pixel density over raw size, so something along the lines of 22" 1080p will be best for me. Higher resolution means you will need a more beefy graphics card, so be careful when deciding 1440p monitors. Look out for IPS panels, it has much better colour reproduction.

    In addition to TPU's power supply reviews, I believe Johnnyguru does a good armount of PSU reviews, you should check them out.

    Focus around building under $1000, use Ivy Bridge if you need to (in addition to easier overclock, cpu+mobo is slightly cheaper and easier to cool), real life difference between 3570K and 4670K is almost negiligble, from performance (when overclocked) to power consumption. I don't think you should be bothered with upgrading your cpu anytime soon either, looking at the 1366 platform and relevant it still is by the time you are looking at your next upgrade we are already using DDR4 among other stuff.
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  8. ruff0r

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    180$ for a 7950?!?!?!? Holy Anit shark spray Batman! Give him two of these and he will be ready for anything[​IMG]
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    Well that sucks since in Lithuania it's more like 342$

    Edit. So I am not sure if i should get 7970 or 7950. I would like to get the better one since the price is only a bit higher but idk if it's worth it.
    Oh and should i get MSI, asus, Gigabyte or Sapphire and is there any difference besides the price?
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    I wonder if you can get them shipped from say Germany.
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    I like MSI stuff a lot but all of those brands are good. I'd say of those Sapphire can be the worst.
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    Meh in Germany(amazon.de) it costs 259 euro(around 342$) :ohwell:
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    In Europe look for 660ti's and gtx 670's there are some big discounts for these two.(like 670 cheaper than 7950 and 660ti's around 7870 price).
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    Do you think the price will go down?

    Final question:
    Should I get extra cooling for overclocking?

    I should have my final build tomorrow for you guys to look trough and I will leave you alone then :D
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    Yes you want a cpu cooler. Ive been pushing the $50 phanteks phtc12dx.
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    no worries :D i got a 7790 for 200$
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    Ok I'm done and the price is higher than I expected so I think I'm going to wait for a month or two, like DarkOCean said the price might go down in that time.
    Anyway if anyone is interested this is the build:

    - Processor: Intel Core i5 4670K
    - Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87MX-D3H (not sure about this)
    - Video card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7950 (I might pick Geforce gtx 760 if it turns out cheaper)
    - RAM: Kingston HyperX blu 8GB(2x4GB) (couldn't find anything cheaper)
    - Power supply: PSU Corsair CX 750W (I liked how it looked and it was cheap enough)
    - SSD: Samsung 840 Evo 120gb (seemed like a good idea)
    - HDD: WD Blue 3.5'' 1TB SATA3 7200RPM (same one)
    - CPU Cooling: Corsair H55 Cooler (looks cool and advanced :D )
    - Case: - (still couldn't pick one)

    I'm still going to build this or something close to it. So feel free to criticize it. :p
    Last edited: Sep 7, 2013
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    Well that's strange the site wont let me post my build. Something about similar post. I guess im going to wait for a while and try then.
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    never had that happen to me here before. I mean, the site has time limits on making searches or posts to combat spam, but similar posts?
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    Ok I'm done and the price is higher than I expected so I think I'm going to wait for a month or two, like DarkOCean said the price might go down in that time.
    Anyway if anyone is interested this is the build:

    - Processor: Intel Core i5 4670K
    - Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z87MX-D3H (not sure about this, I went a bit cheap on this)
    - Video card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7950 (I might pick Geforce gtx 760 if it turns out cheaper)
    - RAM: Kingston HyperX blu 8GB(2x4GB) (couldn't find anything cheaper)
    - Power supply: PSU Corsair CX 750W (I liked how it looked and it was cheap enough)
    - SSD: Samsung 840 Evo 120gb (seemed like a good idea)
    - HDD: WD Blue 3.5'' 1TB SATA3 7200RPM (same one)
    - CPU Cooling: Corsair H55 Cooler (looks cool and advanced :D )
    - Case: - (still couldn't pick one)

    I'm still going to build this or something close to it. So feel free to criticize it. :p
    Last edited: Sep 7, 2013
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    This is the message I get:
    "This post is a duplicate of a post that you have posted in the last five minutes. You will be redirected to that thread."

    I didn't post anything similar. I even tried editing a comment it got deleted.

    Edit. lol I just deleted my first post.
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    You might want to send Wizzard (the site's admin/owner) a PM about what's going on.
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    Whats the nick of admin or owner?

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