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Discussion in 'General Hardware' started by AlphaStormX, Aug 27, 2011.

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  1. CDdude55

    CDdude55 Crazy 4 TPU!!!

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    Yes i agree.

    AMD is finally doing a top down redesign, so i expect great things. Hence why i have my 990FX board already installed and ready for BD.;)

    All i was really stating was where overall performance leaned, it doesn't matter to may people whether you get 100 frames or 90 frames in gaming hence overall values leans towards AMD, but heavy multi-threaded software is where the difference comes in.

    It just depends what you need really.
     
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    A lot of this back and forth isn't really BD related at all.

    To Intel fanboys: Intel is great, AMD fanboys will never agree with you.
    To AMD fanboys: AMD is great, Intel fanboys will never agree with you.

    To Everyone else: Intel & AMD are great. Let them duke it out and pick the best solution for yourself.
     
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    To be politically correct say "Enthusiast"

    Handbrake... It uses Codecs so it depends what version they used

    Gaming benchmark at 2560x1600 is GPU scaling

    I read down to up

    Then

    Ya, I wouldn't really trust these results till I know the codec
     
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  5. CDdude55

    CDdude55 Crazy 4 TPU!!!

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    Real talk true story. (T.I.)
     
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    100% truth. But like with sports teams, ford vs chevy vs doge trucks, pc vs mac etc etc people get passionate about what they care about. Dosent excuse the name calling though. Me personally I can't loose. I run both companies product. I perfer intel cpus. Total fanboy on amd gpus.... total killer machine!
     
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  7. CDdude55

    CDdude55 Crazy 4 TPU!!!

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    People preferring one companies products over another generally isn't why most people hate fanboys, it's those that blindly chose one or the other based on things with no merit.

    I run whatever i can afford and will give me the best results for my tasks (mainly gaming) and that currently is AMD.

    This is offtopic though, sorry. Then again is there even any new news to talk about for BD? lol, they've been fairly quiet.
     
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  8. trickson

    trickson OH, I have such a headache

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    I wonder if this BD is going to be released like there Phenom was . We heard VERY little about them up till there release and we all know just how well they performed . I'm Just sayin . I do not like all this silence on the part of AMD about a chip that should be very powerful and supper kick ass ! Kind of makes me wounder :rolleyes: .
     
  9. TheMailMan78

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    Incorrect. The Phenom 1 was hyped up like crazy. The Phenom 2 dropped silently and/is a great CPU.
     
  10. trickson

    trickson OH, I have such a headache

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    Yeah that is what I meant .. LOL . At any rate this seems a bit like that to me . Not a lot of HYPE other than the WR OC and that is not much to go on . I have lots of cash now and I am going to build a new system soon But till I know for sure what the BD can really do it is hard for me to make a informed purchase as of yet and I am also looking at the Ivy bridge as well Nothing at all on that other than 3d transistors ( This has my E-peen all hard ) :eek: .
     
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    Column 1 Column 2 Column 3 Column 4
    0 Comparing AMD64 instructions Macro-ops Micro-ops
    1 Complexity Complex Average Simple
    2 A single instruction may specify one or more of each of the following operations: A single macro-op may specify—at most—one integer or floating-point operation and one of the following operations: A single micro-op specifies only one of the following primitive operations:
    3 • Integer or floating-point • Load • Integer or floating-point
    4 • Load • Store • Load
    5 • Store • Load and store to the same address • Store
    6 Encoded length Variable (instructions are different lengths) Fixed (all macro-ops are the same length) Fixed (all micro-ops are the same length)
    7 Regularized instruction fields No (field locations and definitions vary among instructions) Yes (field locations and definitions are the same for all macro-ops) Yes (field locations and definitions are the same for all micro-ops)


    Column 1 Column 2
    0 Instruction Type Description
    1 FastPath Single Decodes directly into one macro-op in microprocessor hardware.
    2 FastPath Double Decodes directly into two macro-ops in microprocessor hardware.
    3 Microcode Decodes into one or more (usually three or more) macro-ops using the on-chip microcode-engine ROM (MROM).


    *Might be an error the four micro-ops are actually four marco-ops because in the next section it says "Macro-ops are broken down into micro-ops in the schedulers."

    *Might be another error when micro ops are said but they mean macro ops


    Adding more with edits

    I hate this Table tool!!!

    Also, there might be errors in this some lines are copy and pasted(This has been out since April)
    I am postin this here because this is a "Bulldozer" information thread
     
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    No...no...you don't get it! The world will be a better place when we only have one choice.
     
  13. JF-AMD AMD Rep (Server)

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    Exactly. I actually have this launch prediction:

    AMD will release the chip
    AMD will provide benchmarks
    Others will run benchmarks
    Everyone will have their own biased view of the processor
    Fanboys will always fight each other, they will never agree
    Six months from now (and beyond) the fighting will still go on because, dammit, some people just like to fight

    I am a huge Fox Racing Shocks guy, but I love it when Rock Shox has new products out because that just makes the next year's Fox products better.


    I think it will be just fine. Forum wars will continue no matter what the outcome is.


    +1

    +1
     
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    Well here is some info from chew* about BD working on Crosshair IV (AM3 MB), which I know many people were saying it's impossible:

    So I guess turbo and power saving features probably will not work (my guess is anything power delivery related).
    Thicker pins eh?

    And I strongly believe 19th is the day we get to see the numbers.
     
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    really hope your right! been dying to see something official, benches really dont bother me too much cause you can make them say whatever you want, especially before the public gets their hands on them. what i DO want to know is release date and official price
     
  16. cadaveca

    cadaveca My name is Dave

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    Well, I have no CPU here now, and the 19th is Monday. You'd think AMD would want a site as big as TPU to have a CPU for launch day, no?


    :laugh:

    No way I'm doing a review over the weekend...

    So either there's 3 options:

    A.: Possibly other staff here has one(very possible).

    B.: Bulldozer is NOT launching on Monday.

    C.: AMD marketing has failed.


    I'm leaning towards "C".


    :laugh:All i really know is it won't be me doing a launch review.:laugh:




    :banghead:



    BTW, this thread is averaging 6000 views per week so far. :laugh:
     
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    A.: A possibility

    B. AMD CPUs don't launch on Mondays or Fridays on AVG, they usually launch Tuesday thru Thursday
    But next week is the anniversary of the K8 FXs

    C. AMD Marketing has failed.
    I doubt this one
     
  18. erocker

    erocker Super Moderator Staff Member

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    Do we currently have a CPU reviewer?
     
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    cadaveca My name is Dave

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    Uh...I am not sure, TBH. I thought that was Omega? I would have stepped up if we didn't..I'm been bugging JF-AMD for CPUs long enough, no? :laugh:
     
  20. TheMailMan78

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    Ill review it! I have no idea what I'm doing and the benches will be illegible with porn charts and the conclusion will be reminiscent of a Dr. Seuss book.........but by g-d Ill review it for the community!
     
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    erocker Super Moderator Staff Member

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    I would do it.. but only if the MailMan gets my position as Senior Moderator. Then again I don't want to be the first person to suffer from dissappointment with a CPU that had such high hopes.
     
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    cadaveca My name is Dave

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    pLEASE....no?

    :banghead:


    If ya needed a board, too, i'd send one! ;) you gotta pay shipping though! :laugh:



    :rockout:

    i tell ya what, why don't we ban AMD talk from the forum until they send a sample to ya? :roll:
     
  23. TheMailMan78

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    Yeah but see if I review it the disappointment will be so great with the review people wont even know it was for a CPU. People will just think "WTF did I just read?!"
     
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    I would review it and skew the results by adding flags that would make it use FMA in most open source benchmarks but then again we are talking about Windows so you will have to deal with half bandwidth
     
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    Because people would just constantly make threads about it and we'd get sick of removing them and give up anyways. I already have a CHV :D :ohwell:

    Indeed. Because that would totally relate to 99% of AMD's customers! I'm kidding. I'd like to take my horse to a pig show and call it the most awesome pig evar.

    Bah, I'm done here. BD talk turns my brains into jello and I post stupid things.
     

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