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  1. a111087

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    Some of you probably remember my last post about the car that i got. This is new problem, but the same car.

    Now, the car was in a crash before it was resold. I don't know what kind of crash it was, I wasn't the one buying it. probably something small because it doesn't look like it had any crashes at all (or may be it was well repaired).

    Any way, I recently noticed a problem with transmission. I have been driving this car for may be two years now, but about couple of months ago I was driving home and I started hearing weird clicking noise that I never heard before. Well, it kinda seemed to be coming from transmission, but i was on a highway, so I just continued to drive. Next thing I know is instead of using 2 gear as usual, it started to use 3rd right in the middle of a road. It sure scared me... I stopped at the red light and quickly switched from "D" to parking and back. It did the trick.

    So, it made me scared for a couple of days, but i almost forgot about it, since it didn't happen to me for some time. Unfortunately, transmission did it again recently. This time there was no clicking noise (at least i didn't hear it, radio was loud). I was turning and accelerating and when i reached ~38mph i noticed that it started to use 3rd gear again. I stopped and did the "D>P>D" trick again and it worked again.

    I did some research on google and he best i could find was that it might relate to liquids and filters... but nothing solid.
    So, as you can see I don't much about cars and rely purely on what you say guys. :respect:
    Please advise. :cry:
     
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    Car info?
     
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    JC316 Knows what makes you tick

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    Car info is a must. I would say that fluid/filter for sure, but something deeper is causing the issue. I am thinking that it has shift solenoids and they are going out, USUALLY they are easy enough to replace. It could also be the neutral safety switch going out, also easy to replace.
     
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    I'm thinking it's a solenoid as well. It depends on the car and most importantly, the transmission that will tell how easy it is to fix. With some transmissions, might just as well find one in a salvage yard with low miles on it, or take the more expensive route and get a re-maned transmission.
     
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    Right on a GM 4t80-E, you can just drop the pan, take the valve body off and swap the solenoids. On a ford..... it can be more difficult, to the point of just getting the junkyard tranny.
     
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    junk automatics ars shifty though but new ones are epensive thats why i went standard i could lay it on the ground and rebuild it if need be and new ones are cheaper than automatics.
     
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    Auto trannys are a pain in the butt to fix. Usually you can replace solenoids but if you go that far and you are able too, put a shift kit in. They are not too expensive if you know where to look. and are quite easy to put in.

    But it sounds like you need a flush and filter. Smell the tranny fluid and if it stinks, and you will know, its bad. If you dont know what good tranny fluid smells like, smell some...
     
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    Heres a tip from my experience. Replace the solenoid. If that don't work do one of two things.

    1. Drop the whole thing out and head over to napa and trade it in for a rebuilt one. (easy)
    2. Take it to a shop that specializes in transmissions. (fast)

    Autos are not any worst to work on than a manual if you know what your doing. Problem is not many people know a transmissions guts like the rest of the car. Your better off just dropping it and buying a rebuilt than popping that thing open. There is a reason why you see shops that specialize in transmissions. If you mess something up inside them things the damage can go well beyond the transmission itself.
     
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    sorry, it is Toyota 4runner. The sticker near the driver's door says 12/01. So, I guess that is manufacturing date.
    I'm so bad with cars that i don't know where is trans. and where do i need to smell the liquid.
    I need to find a manual or something...
     
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    You need to take it to a shop. There is no way (I run a service shop and am a mechanic) that anyone can tell exactly what is wrong by any description. I see many 4runners with bad transmissions. Most likely it's time for a rebuild.
     
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    ok, so if it is time for a rebuild, how much would it cost? (if i take it to a shop)
     
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    Figure around the $1500 area for labor and parts. A used transmission out of a salvage yard is much cheaper. Prices differ by area, but it can't hurt to go to a shop and get an estimate.
     
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    OMG... I can buy another car for that much...
    Thank you guys. I will go and cry some more...
     
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    damn that's high dollar. I had my Mark Viii rebuilt for 1200 dollars total with a shift kit installed.
     
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    Wow, prices must have dropped on them. Back when I had mine, it was around the $2500 mark. You can probably find a transmission out of a junkyard for around $500 and then figure another $500 to get someone to install it.
     
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    well, it is still moving me from place to place, i don't drive much and I will try to find some reading material to at least get my head around all of this
     
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    I had a 2000 Toyota Tacoma with an auto. Same exact thing this guy has for powertrain. My transfercase went bad at 130,000 miles. Its something he might want to look at. Those trannys also have them little magnet things in the pan. He should look there first. No flakes, no break.
     
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    uhhh... this words make little sense to me. I'm still @35K miles :ohwell:
    i heard that magnets are inside of the transmission and they are there to attract some metal... i don't know what is transfercase...

    do u mean that i should look at the magnets and if there is a lot of metal on them then something is probably broken and if not, then its transfercase?
     
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    Well not exactly. See the magnets are in the tranny. "Most" of the time when something is messing up youll find metal shavings in the pan. The transfer case is a whole different story. I find it odd you have a 2001 with only 35k. Did you buy it used?
     
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    I edited my last statement. I meant about $1500. It was a hasty post.:)
     
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    Sounds about right. I paid 750 to replace my transfercase.
     
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    i wasn't the one buying it, but yes, it was used
    it has been ~2-3 years now... i drive about twice a week (yeah, i know...) so that should explain 35k :)

    oh, u mean metal in the old oil... well, to change oil i go to shop and they never tell me what they find there :)
     
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    Maybe I missed it, but I didn't see anyone telling him to check the level of the transmission fluid.

    Transmission fluid is the one fluid you check with the car warmed up and running. You should be able to find a picture of where the dipstick is online or under the hood. If not, it's the dipstick that maybe looks like the oil dipstick but it's not the oil dipstick because it's the other one.

    If the fluid is up to level and it's not burnt or black or something, yeah, likely going to need a different tranny.
     
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    will do that
     
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    this in an update, car was taken to a shop and was checked out... (and they washed it :laugh:)
    trans. fluid was changed too
    here are some insights:
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    this is what transmission fluid looked like when i checked it myself:
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    report from the shop (i wasn't the one who took it to the shop, so, this paper is all the information that i got):
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    if some one can explain to me all the yellow parts and the part that is in the comments i would be very thankful.
    the "30k with plugs?" part makes no sense to me.... :confused: (30k is probably millage, but plugs?)
     

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