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  1. Black Panther

    Black Panther Senior Moderator™ Staff Member

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    Great, now for the same price of the U2711 I could get this

    *drools* 30" and it's 16:10

    plus LG monitors never disappointed me at all.
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    cadaveca My name is Dave

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    That LG is bascially the same as Dell 3007WFP, FYI.

    EDIT:

    They even use the same base panel with no scaler. I have played with both, kept the dell, but because of warranty. If LG service is better out there, I'd go with LG too.

    Alos noticed the price of U2711 there is lower than your quoted prices.
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    if youre going to spend that much money id take the LG

    just mail hoh.de and ask if they ship to malta, and what the shipping is lol
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    Black Panther Senior Moderator™ Staff Member

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    Meaning it's a generation before the U2711 and its 30" counterpart the U3011?

    Wait, dell also has the 30" 3008WFP :confused:

    I iz confuzed now :twitch:

    Scaler - that's to make the picture look good even when not at native resolution is it?


    Sigh, I'm thinking I know too little about monitors to risk this money on a 2560 pixel one perhaps I should go for a 1920x1200 :confused:
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    (FIH) The Don

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    thats what i would do, get a 26/27" 1920x1200 if you can, maybe with IPS panel in it
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    cadaveca My name is Dave

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    Dell has 3007WFP, 3008WFP, and now U3011, and U3011 is basically combination of old 3007, with 3008 scaler and input options in the 3007WFP shell. I HATE the 3008WFP stand..on my second one...after time they tend to lean to one side. I've had to prop up each side of the monitor to keep it level.:shadedshu

    The LG monitor is newer, but really is only 1920x1200, contrary to that listing there(LG's website says 1920x1200, and I'll listen to LG's site firstLINKY). The previous model that WAS 2560x1600, yes, is the same generation as 3007WFP. It fared better than the standard 3007WFP, but the 3007WFP-HC was better, IMHO.

    :D

    Scaler...yes, exactly, but of course it adds some input lag. This makes a minimal impact to my gaming, and FPS is what I play most often, so should be perfect for you in regards to input lag.

    I'd recommend 1920x1200 too...far easier for a modern gpu to push that res. I don't readily have any suggestions for that res though, as I have very little personal experience with such panels. I'm only good for high-end recommendations. :laugh:
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    Black Panther Senior Moderator™ Staff Member

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    I'm surprised at how easily I change my mind :eek:

    Thanks for the advice FIH. Cadaveca - from your posts here I learnt more on monitors than while browsing :)

    I've re-thought it and I don't think it's worth in my case to choose a 2560px monitor for €1000+ rather than a same-sized 1920x1200 for a third of the price.

    I'm open to suggestions for 27"+ 1920x1200 monitors..
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    cadaveca My name is Dave

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    I think, maybe, your best best, for best quality picture, plus resolution, would be a 24-inch IPS-based panel. You should be able to find many for $500 or so. If you need more screen real-estate, buy a second monitor.


    24-inch IPS:

    http://h10010.www1.hp.com/wwpc/us/en/sm/WF05a/382087-382087-64283-72270-3884471-4101131.html

    http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/...en&s=gen&sku=320-8277&~lt=popup&~ck=XYRelated

    there are more of course, but just to give you an idea i tossed up a couple of links.



    Another thing to consider with larger panels is how much power they use...avg is about 180w or so. So not only does it cost more initially for a large panel, you pay more for regular use as well.
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    Whoa, haven't been back to this thread for a while. What did we decide Panther?

    I trust you're going with X58/i7?

    For the case, I have a Corsair 800D. I love it, but it's huge. Kinda hard to imagine before you see for the first time really. I agree w/ others, this case is made for water cooling, but I wouldn't say it's weak in terms of air cooling either. If you leave the fans stock, then yea, it's lacking a bit, especially in the GPU area. But if you put 3 fans on top and change some fan orientations, it's decent. If you decide to get the case I can tell you more about airflow directions in the 800D. Though if you plan on getting 2x GTX 480s, then you're probably better off with another case or add a fan or two on the side panel.

    For the monitor, the U2711 is a fantastic monitor. Don't worry about the 16:9 ratio on this one because it's a 27" monitor, and it'll be bigger than a 24' 16:10 monitor height wise anyways. Normally I really hate 16:9 monitors b/c they seem so narrow, but I think you'll be okay here. The dot pitch is really small on this monitor, so text could be a bit hard to read. But everything will look gorgeous :D

    For the price you have to pay though, you are probably better off w/ a 30", but 2560x1600 is a lot of pixels, and you'll need a lot of horsepower to game at a good FPS at that resolution. Also do keep in mind that the LG 30" at 1920x1200 will make things look really big. I thought about buying a Hanns-G 28" monitor before, but I got a look at it at Best Buy and all the icons/text looks pretty big at native resolution, so they'll be even bigger on a 30". If you want to emulate the effect, change the resolution on your current monitor one step down. Example: 24" 1920x1200 (16:10) -> 1680x1050, and the ratio should look about right.

    *Edit: Waiting till 2011 is a valid way to go also, but I think they won't be coming out with the chips until Q3 or Q4 2011? Also, good motherboards don't really come out until a year after the chips are released anyways.
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    Black Panther Senior Moderator™ Staff Member

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    I decided to wait for the mobo/cpu/ram combo since my games run fine on the present system. That is unless I encounter some really good offer!

    So far that's the case I'm eyeing to buy when I change mobo/cpu/ram.


    I was unsure about the monitor since I've been using the laptop a lot for gaming recently and find its picture a lot better than the LG 1680x1050 of my desktop. It's 1920x1200 and only 17" so it kinda spoiled me :laugh:

    I've been thinking that the desktop's 5970 can deal well with a 2560x1600 (ok perhaps not Crysis :p) but on later thoughts it's not worth spending x3 the money I'd need to buy a similar-sized 1920x1200..... so now I've changed my mind and am looking for a 1920x1200 :) I'm set on buying a larger one though, at least 27" possibly something like the Hanns.G HZ281HPB
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    If you're used to a 1920x1200 on a 17", the same resolution on a 27" will look really, really big.
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    Black Panther Senior Moderator™ Staff Member

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    OK it's between these 2 finally....


    Hanns.G HZ281HBP
    €349 inc vat
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    Hanns.G HH281HP
    €357 inc vat

    What gives? I've done some googling, for only €8 it's no problem choosing the most expensive one if only I could find the difference?

    I also received an email from Scan:
    27" Viewsonic VX2739wm Black Widescreen LCD Monitor, 1920x1080, 100,000:1, 300 cd/m², 1 ms, Full HD
    • 27" Wide Color TFT Active Matrix LCD 16:9 aspect ratio
    • Display Area 23.5" horizontal x 13.2" vertical; 27" diagonal
    • Optimum Resolution: 1920x1080 WUXGA
    • Contrast Ratio: 1200:1 (typ); 100,000:1 (dynamic)
    • Viewing Angles: 170º horizontal, 160º vertical @ 5:1 contrast ratio
    • Response Time: 1ms (typ)
    • Light Source: Long life, 50,000 hrs. (typ)
    • Brightness: 300 cd/m2 (typ)
    • Panel Surface: Anti-glare, hard coating (3H)
    • Frequency: Fh: 24~83kHz, Fv: 50~76Hz
    • Analog 15-pin mini D-sub (VGA)
    • Digital DVI-D (with HDCP), HDMI 1.3
    • 3.5mm audio in / 3.5mm audio out
    • Power: 3-pin AC plug (CEE22)
    • Voltage: AC 100-240V (universal), 50/60Hz (auto switch)
    • Consumption: 58W (typ); 38W (Eco-mode)
    • Tilt: Down 5º, Up 20º
    • VESA® MOUNT: 200mm x 100mm

    A 2-3 week lead time is to be allowed from order date.

    Price is €369.00 incl VAT and ECO.


    However I'd much prefer a 1920x1200 over a 1920x1080.

    Advice please?
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    did you decide on any monitor?
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    Extremely late advice, but the HH version comes with 1200 (which is what you want) and the HZ version comes with 1080 (which is what you dont want) so its simple, isnt it? Same logic applies to the viewsonic
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    Yup, I already put it in system specs :)
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    So you went for the Dell after all :laugh: How about writing a mini review for us?
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    you are crazy hahahahhaa :laugh:

    gratz, did you get it yet+
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    Black Panther Senior Moderator™ Staff Member

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    I thought my crazyiness stopped when I got the 5970 but apparently it didn't :ohwell:

    Be getting it within 7 - 10 days at the most.

    Edit: I'll be having it Thursday 21st Oct :D

    Edit again: :eek: I just broke the news to him, always do so after I've committed myself - well haven't yet told him the price but he told me I'd be spending as much as a new 9.9Hp outboard motor lol so he's erring on the high side :D (well he knows me a lot...)

    When the time's right I'll tell him it costs as much as a new 5Hp outboard motor.... :roll:
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    Black Panther Senior Moderator™ Staff Member

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    Well I guess my upgrade bug got satisfied now :rolleyes:

    I got the monitor, bought Win 7 x64 and made a fresh install on a 160GB SSD... -- Big thanks to Paulharrison123 who sold me the SSD :rockout:

    Things look nice so far:

    [​IMG]


    I'm thinking of keeping my current CPU, RAM and mobo for now.

    Thanks for all the advice guys :toast:
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    HEHE! No problems at all BP, Missing the SSD already, will be getting a new one ASAP!
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    You are getting a warranty from the shop as well as the one that dell offers.

    Basically if it goes wrong you can return it to the shop and get it sorted rather than returning it to dell. ( wooooo working in retail!/returns!)
    They will either refund your money, replace the hardware or offer you another model of same specification.

    But you will still have a dell warranty in box that lasts 3 years.
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    if you want water and a case, I ran across botht the Swifty kit and the 600T, they make an awesome pairing:D

    [​IMG]
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    Dell warranties range from 1 year to 5 years and it all depends what is picked in the configuration when ordering . I order from Dell all day every day and thats what I deal with. I do it for a living..lol.

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