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Changing USB Polling Rate to 1000hz (or lower)

Discussion in 'General Hardware' started by audiotranceable, Oct 23, 2009.

  1. audiotranceable

    audiotranceable New Member

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    Not sure if someone posted a guide like this before? Anyways I took my time to make one myself (Unknownm from OCN)
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    If your like me and hate default 125hz that all windows install (Unless you modify) here is a quick way to change your USB polling rate to 1000hz (1.00ms response time).


    Note: Some mouses don't go all the way up to 1000hz. This is mainly in wireless mouses


    Windows Vista & 7 64-bit

    1. What you need: HIDUSBF.zip - dimr.exe (Direct Input Mouse Rate)

    2. Extract HIDUSBF.zip & dimr.exe into a folder

    3. Right click on "HIDUSBF.INF" find install (If Warning comes up about unsigned drivers don't worry)

    4. Open up dseo13b.exe and check "Enable Test Mode"


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    5. Reboot

    6. After Reboot you will see "Test mode Windows XXXX build XXXX" You can get rid of this but for now reopen dseo13b.exe and check "Sign a system file"

    7. In the box type in "C:\Windows\System32\Drivers\HIDUSBF.sys". If correct a window will come up saying "The system file has been signed succesfully..."


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    8. Reboot

    9. Reopen HIDUSBF folder and click on "Setup.exe"

    10. Find your mouse click on it (it should be highlighted has blue) and at the bottom of the window check "Filter On Device" and select your Rate


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    11. Click Restart and open up dimr.exe. If it's still runs default 125hz reboot your windows Vista or 7 64-bit operating system again


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    12. To remove watermark open dseo13b.exe and click on Remove watermarks. It will link you to the website with the correct files to remove it



    Windows XP/Vista/7 32-bit


    1. Right click on "HIDUSBF.INF" find install
    (Note sometimes with XP if you apply and the mouse stops responding in this case restart again and try again)

    2. Open HIDUSBF folder and click on "Setup.exe"

    3. Find your mouse click on it (it should be highlighted has blue) and at the bottom of the window check "Filter On Device" and select your Rate

    4. Click Restart and open up dimr.exe. If it's still runs default 125hz reboot
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    What if i have 1000 out of the box ?
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    audiotranceable New Member

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    than don't follow this guide:confused:.
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    Thanks for the guide, matt.

    My razor had high polling rate drivers. However, I didnt find any long term noticable benefit... I think it was more placebo/emporer clothes effect. In fact, I prefer my razor with standard windows drivers. Sounds odd, but true. Perhaps it was because the razor drivers were always crashing... or had memory leaks.

    There are downsides with some other devices not liking such high polling rates, and with the overheads associated with the PC having to manage so many interrupts.

    Anyone else want to share their experience?
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    I've got a Belkin Nostromo N52te and a Sidewinder X8, they've been at 125Mhz since I got them both, but I recently upped the polling rate to 1000Mhz and it's better only for one reason. The n52te sometimes would skip if a button was pressed down (IE I'm pressing W to move forward, then I stop, then start again), but now it's at 1000Mhz I don't get that at all.

    I can't see any difference on anything else, and none of my other USB stuff is complaining, so it's going to stay at 1000Mhz :)
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    YOu can also pull a signed driver out of saitek software for a controller pad, and for some logitech hardware.

    I will have to try this later.
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    interesting...
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    newtekie1 Semi-Retired Folder

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    Never really seen a benefit from this. I have mine set at 500Hz, but I could never tell a difference over the 125Hz.

    I don't think I've ever played a game where the extra 7ns would make a difference...
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    Just use USB Mouse Rate Switcher. (Not sure if this works on W7 though, I did it on XP but anything over 500MHz would drop my DPI)

    Edit: Just tried this, works great thanks.
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    in case anybody cares this video demonstrates the difference between 125Hz and 1000Hz polling rate, the two mice compared are the OCZ Equalizer and the Razer Copperhead both mice use the same sensor Avago ADNS-6010 except the OCZ Equalizer stock is stuck at 125Hz even when the USB port is overclocked to 1000Hz it refuses to budge, not sure if they ever fixed this.
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    I can't seem to tell the difference...
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    in the video the Equalizer is jerky and the Copperhead isn't.
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    Call me blind but I still can't tell a difference! :ohwell:
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    your blind :p go to full screen. Copperhead is first, Equalizer is second.
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    Okay so I had a feeling the Copperhead was first before you told me. Hey, I guess there is a difference. :p
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    shh Wile E owns the equalizer. you should challenge him in a game of counter-strike for keeps. lol
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    Knowing how bad I am at CS, I'd rather not give away my mouse. :toast:
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    You mean the Test Mode Windows 7 Build 7600 thing? Or something like it?

    I've been wondering what it was too...

    Actually here's a quote from the first post.

    Didn't work for me though...

    Kay the watermark is gone now, just run the program as admin and let it do it's thing. Relog or reboot for it to go away.
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    Yeah the watermark can be annoying at times. Although when I enable it it only shows on the bottom right of the screen.. I have no idea why his was all over the screen:twitch:
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    Any further updates to this program?
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    not that I know. Still works great on Windows 7 Pro 64-bit:D
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    What mouse are you using?

    Running Windows Driver Verifier Tool on lachesis.sys (1.0/1.10) always results in a BSOD. So yeah, the drivers are problematic.

    The same also happens to HIDCLASS.sys, but I'm not sure if it's a mobo issue or because the polling rate is set to 1000.

    (It even happens when all razer stuff/drivers have been removed and I use a Bluetooth mouse/keyboard.)

    I do get a lot of IRQ related Blue Screens (rarely points to any driver), so I'm wondering if it is indeed a h/ware issue or is down to the polling rate. Either way, it's given me another avenue to test.

    Thanks for the idea :)
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    i cant see a single difference between those two examples.


    Also, its rather poor to use mouse A vs mouse B, and then claim the difference (which is very tiny) is due to the polling rate - and not the mice
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    You've overclocked your mouse? :confused:

    Lets go for round 2 and overclock the router.

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