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Child Talk Time - What's The Fastest Card

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  1. AsGStorm New Member

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    Exactly what the title says, what's the fastest card out there atm, and what's the fasted after being OC'ed.
     
  2. WhiteLotus

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    no idea but my bet is the ultra 8800 GTXS or whatever is.
     
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    EVGA GeForce 8800 Ultra SSC.

    There's also a BFG Tech 8800 Ultra OC2 Watercooled that uses a factory fitted Danger Den water-block.
     
  4. zekrahminator

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    Best card out there is prolly the 8800Ultra. However, it's $800+ the last time I checked. You're much better off getting an 8800GTS 512MB, which has the new G92 core in it. You'll get equivalent or superior performance for about $350 :).
     
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    After being OC'ed a BFG Geforce 8800 Ultra OC2 Watercooled is the fastest, people have taken it to 750 MHz core, 2200 MHz memory and 1900 MHz shader.
     
  6. zekrahminator

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    $800 8800Ultra, which requires extra cash spent on a LCS to cool the thing (up the cost by between $80 and $200), and you're spending around $1000 for the video card alone. Getting a power supply to feed the thing will put you out another $150. $1150 = ouch.


    Or....

    $360 8800GTS G92, which includes a free copy of Crysis, has a beefy stock air cooler that doesn't require anything more to run, and a power supply that'll handle the thing is no more than $100 for a good one (it's on sale right now, $70 free shipping :)). $460 gets you about the same performance as an 8800Ultra for a lot less cash, effort, and maintenance. Tell me, which one would you choose ;).
     
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  7. btarunr

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    Zeky, the topic is about the Fastest card, not the best. Plus it's childtalk. the G92 GTS is a good card for its money, no denying that.
     
  8. zekrahminator

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    Yep, I'm just warning that to make the 8800Ultra WC work, you need an LCS, LCS installation expertise, and a meaty power supply.
     
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    In that case I'd say EVGA GeForce 8800 Ultra SSC (Superclocked) it's as easy as installing any other card.
     
  10. DOM

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    this thread doesnt make any sense cuz if its OC on what ? air, water, dry ice, ln2 etc.

    and not all cards OC the same, and fastest in what ?
     
  11. flashstar New Member

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    512 mb 2900xt.

    They still lead in 3dmark06 over the ultra and physically one can get the core and memory speed going much quicker than an Ultra.
     
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    Yeah, with phase cooling, dry-ice and the such...
     
  13. btarunr

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    Yeah and still stay way behind the 8800 Ultra in games. People play "games", not benchmarks. And in every game (barring VALVe games), the 8800 Ultra is far ahead. The HD2900 1GB can do better if it's OC'ed to 1.5 GHz core and 3.00 GHz memory using liquid nitrogen cooling.
     
  14. flashstar New Member

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    http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleid=2159&page=14

    Call of Juarez

    1024x768 Low Settings: FPS Ranking
    MSI NX8800GTX-T2D768E 61.5
    Foxconn FV-N88SMCD2-ONOC 54.3
    MSI NX8800GTS-T2D320E-HD-OC 53.6
    GeForce 8600GTS SLI 57.6
    Foxconn 8600GTS-256 46.3
    MSI NX8600GTS-T2D256E-OC 48.1
    Albatron 8600GT-256 40.3
    MSI NX8500GT-TD256E 23.4
    Diamond Viper Radeon HD 2900XT 56.8
    Diamond Viper Radeon HD 2900XT (825/1135) 64.6
    Diamond Viper Radeon HD 2900XT CrossFire 57.9
    Diamond Viper Radeon HD 2900XT CrossFire (812/1123) 68.4

    1024x768 High Settings: FPS Ranking
    MSI NX8800GTX-T2D768E 28
    Foxconn FV-N88SMCD2-ONOC 20.4
    MSI NX8800GTS-T2D320E-HD-OC 20.2
    GeForce 8600GTS SLI 18.4
    Foxconn 8600GTS-256 12.8
    MSI NX8600GTS-T2D256E-OC 13.1
    Albatron 8600GT-256 10.8
    MSI NX8500GT-TD256E 6.6
    Diamond Viper Radeon HD 2900XT 34.1
    Diamond Viper Radeon HD 2900XT (825/1135) 37.5
    Diamond Viper Radeon HD 2900XT CrossFire 39.9
    Diamond Viper Radeon HD 2900XT CrossFire (812/1123) 43.8

    1600x1200 Low Settings: FPS Ranking
    MSI NX8800GTX-T2D768E 40.5
    Foxconn FV-N88SMCD2-ONOC 28.7
    MSI NX8800GTS-T2D320E-HD-OC 28.5
    GeForce 8600GTS SLI 29.3
    Foxconn 8600GTS-256 14.4
    MSI NX8600GTS-T2D256E-OC 14.5
    Albatron 8600GT-256 10.9
    MSI NX8500GT-TD256E 7.3
    Diamond Viper Radeon HD 2900XT 43.1
    Diamond Viper Radeon HD 2900XT (825/1135) 47.1
    Diamond Viper Radeon HD 2900XT CrossFire 54.7
    Diamond Viper Radeon HD 2900XT CrossFire (812/1123) 60.3

    1600x1200 High Settings: FPS Ranking
    MSI NX8800GTX-T2D768E 19.4
    Foxconn FV-N88SMCD2-ONOC 10.2
    MSI NX8800GTS-T2D320E-HD-OC 10
    GeForce 8600GTS SLI 7.6
    Foxconn 8600GTS-256 4.2
    MSI NX8600GTS-T2D256E-OC 4.3
    Albatron 8600GT-256 2.6
    MSI NX8500GT-TD256E 1
    Diamond Viper Radeon HD 2900XT 18.5
    Diamond Viper Radeon HD 2900XT (825/1135) 22.3
    Diamond Viper Radeon HD 2900XT CrossFire 32.3
    Diamond Viper Radeon HD 2900XT CrossFire (812/1123) 37.5


    As you can see, the 2900xt, even while not overclocked is extremely close to the 8800 GTX if not faster than it. Note that this review was done in August after ATI had more time to fix driver issues. I guess that people just hate AMD lol.
     
  15. trog100 New Member

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    a rare ATI game is call of warez.. he he..

    and a crap one.. the 8800 ultra is still the king of the heap..

    trog
     
  16. cdawall where the hell are my stars

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    they only win because they are using LN2 if you look closely the 8800ultras listed are on dry ice only and in single cards there are not even any 2900 on the 1st page


    http://hwbot.org/hallOfFame.do?type=result&applicationId=12
     
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    FEAR too?

    Sierra FEAR 1.08

    1024x768: FPS Ranking
    Asus EAX1900XTX 2DHTV/512M/A 188
    Asus EAX1950PRO/HTDP/256M/A 109
    MSI NX8800GTX-T2D768E 157
    Foxconn FV-N88SMCD2-ONOC 150
    MSI NX8800GTS-T2D320E-HD-OC 143
    GeForce 8600GTS SLI 149
    Foxconn 8600GTS-256 111
    MSI NX8600GTS-T2D256E-OC 107
    Albatron 8600GT-256 94
    MSI NX8500GT-TD256E 54
    MSI NX7950GX2-T2D1GE 143
    MSI NX7900GTX-T2D512E 138
    MSI NX7900GS-T2D512E-OC 112
    Gigabyte GV-NX76T256D-RH 78
    Biostar Sigma-Gate GeForce 7600GS 68
    Diamond Viper Radeon HD 2900XT 177
    Diamond Viper Radeon HD 2900XT (825/1135) 185
    Diamond Viper Radeon HD 2900XT CrossFire 207
    Diamond Viper Radeon HD 2900XT CrossFire (812/1123) 238

    1600x1200: FPS Ranking
    Asus EAX1900XTX 2DHTV/512M/A 114
    Asus EAX1950PRO/HTDP/256M/A 59
    MSI NX8800GTX-T2D768E 132
    Foxconn FV-N88SMCD2-ONOC 108
    MSI NX8800GTS-T2D320E-HD-OC 103
    GeForce 8600GTS SLI 97
    Foxconn 8600GTS-256 56
    MSI NX8600GTS-T2D256E-OC 54
    Albatron 8600GT-256 48
    MSI NX8500GT-TD256E 28
    MSI NX7950GX2-T2D1GE 110
    MSI NX7900GTX-T2D512E 79
    MSI NX7900GS-T2D512E-OC 60
    Gigabyte GV-NX76T256D-RH 39
    Biostar Sigma-Gate GeForce 7600GS 34
    Diamond Viper Radeon HD 2900XT 119
    Diamond Viper Radeon HD 2900XT (825/1135) 138
    Diamond Viper Radeon HD 2900XT CrossFire 153
    Diamond Viper Radeon HD 2900XT CrossFire (812/1123) 189

    1024x768 w/Soft Shadows Enabled: FPS Ranking
    Asus EAX1900XTX 2DHTV/512M/A 91
    Asus EAX1950PRO/HTDP/256M/A 66
    MSI NX8800GTX-T2D768E 134
    Foxconn FV-N88SMCD2-ONOC 113
    MSI NX8800GTS-T2D320E-HD-OC 112
    GeForce 8600GTS SLI 110
    Foxconn 8600GTS-256 61
    MSI NX8600GTS-T2D256E-OC 60
    Albatron 8600GT-256 52
    MSI NX8500GT-TD256E 23
    MSI NX7950GX2-T2D1GE 114
    MSI NX7900GTX-T2D512E 85
    MSI NX7900GS-T2D512E-OC 63
    Gigabyte GV-NX76T256D-RH 40
    Biostar Sigma-Gate GeForce 7600GS 31
    Diamond Viper Radeon HD 2900XT 143
    Diamond Viper Radeon HD 2900XT (825/1135) 155
    Diamond Viper Radeon HD 2900XT CrossFire 167
    Diamond Viper Radeon HD 2900XT CrossFire (812/1123) 195

    1600x1200 w/Soft Shadows Enabled: FPS Ranking
    Asus EAX1900XTX 2DHTV/512M/A 42
    Asus EAX1950PRO/HTDP/256M/A 30
    MSI NX8800GTX-T2D768E 74
    Foxconn FV-N88SMCD2-ONOC 55
    MSI NX8800GTS-T2D320E-HD-OC 57
    GeForce 8600GTS SLI 51
    Foxconn 8600GTS-256 27
    MSI NX8600GTS-T2D256E-OC 26
    Albatron 8600GT-256 20
    MSI NX8500GT-TD256E 10
    MSI NX7950GX2-T2D1GE 59
    MSI NX7900GTX-T2D512E 39
    MSI NX7900GS-T2D512E-OC 30
    Gigabyte GV-NX76T256D-RH 18
    Biostar Sigma-Gate GeForce 7600GS 14
    Diamond Viper Radeon HD 2900XT 75
    Diamond Viper Radeon HD 2900XT (825/1135) 88
    Diamond Viper Radeon HD 2900XT CrossFire 104
    Diamond Viper Radeon HD 2900XT CrossFire (812/1123) 126

    The Ultra might be a bit faster, but the 2900xt can overclock higher, thus resulting in higher overall speeds versus the Ultra. This is really stupid though since the Ultra is $740 versus the 2900 pro (underclocked XT) which is $160...

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130093
     
  18. cdawall where the hell are my stars

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    @flashstar what about the 8800GTS 512mb weres that on your tests?
     
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    [​IMG]

    http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/1237/6/page_6_benchmarks_f_e_a_r/index.html


    The 8800gts is just 10% faster than the 8800gt. It basically is around the same speed as the GTX. Even with Nvidia's competitive prices with the new gts and gt, both are between $100 and $120 more than a 2900pro which like I said before is just an underclocked XT. I couldn't find any direct comparisons between the new GTS and the GTX, but the gt is between a 640mb GTS and a GTX.

    I really don't know what it is, but it seems to be harder and harder to find direct comparisons between Nvidia and ATI with the latest drivers. Many of the review sites appear to be "recylcing" reviews of the 2900xt with release drivers in comparison to the GT/GTS 512.
     
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    let it be 760core clock, 1950 shader clock, and 2400 memory clock :)
     
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    The 8800ULTRA is the fastest card out. End of conversation. The HD 2900XT is not as good lol
     
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    the only reason they used 2900xt for the wr is because intel x38 doesnt support sli
    and x38 was the best oc chip and stil is the 8800 ULTRA SSC the fastest
     
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    Rather incorrect X38 has been proven NOT to be the best OCing chip out there at the moment...
     
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    benchmarks, duh.
     
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    How come there's no card based on the G92 in this comparison ? Forget G92 there's no 8800 GTX or 8800 Ultra. Sorry you can't rank stuff this way keeping two of the highest cards outside the field. You may want to add this line: "Yeah that's the ranking so far, the 8800 GTX and Ultra are kept out, they lead this list anyway"/

    The 2900XT could OC higher, but still not come even close to an 8800 Ultra - Axiom
     

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