CM fans not so "cheap" as ppl mention them?

crazyeyesreaper · Apr 20, 2013

the silverstone 140 x 38 mm monster is pretty awesome

I also like the 180mm air penetrators there pretty damn quiet but move ALOT of air and due to the design they push air out like:

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compared to more typical cone shape: hurray for bad asci art.
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like any brand everyone has good and bad fans.

me i prefer Delta 120x25mm high RPM fans and just undervolt them. I get high static pressure and damn good performance if i need it but if i want silence i can have that to

Zubasa · Apr 20, 2013

ALMOSTunseen said:
But what about the silverstones? "preparing for rant"

In fact just about every fan in my Case are SilverStones

I have no problems with them what so ever.

TRWOV · Apr 20, 2013

ALMOSTunseen said:
But what about the silverstones? "preparing for rant"

I'm happy with my FN121s. :toast:

ALMOSTunseen · Apr 20, 2013

Zubasa said:
In fact just about every fan in my Case are SilverStones
I have no problems with them what so ever.

TRWOV said:
I'm happy with my FN121s.

It was in a positive way

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Crazy went on about how these silverstones are so awesome, and how badly he wants more of the fans they mount on their CPU coolers, because they are so much better then their retail fans.

badtaylorx · Apr 20, 2013

the only cooler master fans ive ever liked are the Excalliburs....

balls out fan, one of the best ever made period....

not the best in a push pull tho because of its tendancy to draw air in through the fan case holes..but in a push only situation.....they're great...

Lazermonkey · Apr 20, 2013

de.das.dude said:
noctua fans are the worst. they hardly move any air, which is why they are so silent
plus they are way over priced.

lol what?

I have an Noctua 100CFM as my rear exhaust and it DOES move a lot of air.

Also, it is quieter than any of the other fans in my case

Deleted member 67555 · Apr 20, 2013

newtekie1 said:
I don't call CM fans cheap because they don't move a lot of air, any fan can move a lot of air. I call them cheap because they are built like garbage and don't last.

They use sleeve bearings, which are probably the worst type you can put in a fan. While they are quiet at first, after a little while of use they get louder as the lubrication dries up, and eventually they seize. Generally a sleeve fan will start to fail after about a year. Also, the plastic they use is cheap, the fans have a lot of flex and the fins are very weak. Accidentally stick a finger in the fan while it is running, come on we've all done it, and good by fan.

Also, of course you didn't get a lot of static pressure with a AF120s, they aren't designed for static pressure. The SP120s are designed for static pressure.

Not all CM fans are sleeve bearing nor aree they all garbage...You get what you pay for and when you spend $3 on a 120mm CM you should know you're getting garbage...LOL

I've had few fans ever die on me...Of the 3 that have died that I can remember they were all expensive...1 Noctua, 1 ScYthe and a Xigmatek which didn't actually die but got super loud... But again imo its luck of the draw when you but Hydro bearing or ball bearing fans... They are either good or they are not....

I would buy more Noctua fans though...
Ugly as hell, Check!
Cost 3x more than they should. Check!
Quiet with decent airflow. Check!
Did I mention they are ugly....
But I'd still buy more of em.

linoliveira · Apr 23, 2013

So what I understand from this thread is:

get lucky and find a good batch of fans (no matter what brand), else live with it.
don't use sleeve bearing fans horizontally.

Thank you all for the replies! I was in need of a thread with such good experience in what comes to fans, and you guys provided it!

EDIT: Thout my CM fan was wobbling, but its the Antec one on the PSU that is...

LAN_deRf_HA · Apr 23, 2013

linoliveira said:
don't use sleeve bearing fans horizontally.

My R4s died vertical.

Another brand I'd avoid is Gelid. They cost a lot but make too much noise for the air they move. I fell for that early on in my fan journey.

linoliveira · Apr 23, 2013

LAN_deRf_HA said:
My R4s died vertical.

lifespan?

LAN_deRf_HA · Apr 23, 2013

About 10-14 months.

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CM fans not so "cheap" as ppl mention them?

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