Computer doesnt fully shut down

CrAsHnBuRnXp · Apr 30, 2009

Mussels said:
does it shut down properly in safe mode?

No.

Mussels · Apr 30, 2009

CrAsHnBuRnXp said:
No.

well in that case, we can pretty much conclude its a BIOS setting.

no idea where to start on that tho, except 'power management'

BroBQ · Apr 30, 2009

Not sure if this is the issue in your case or not... but i've seen this problem a few times before and it ended up being the audio drivers from creative.

Mostly XP system, seen in once so far in Windows 7

FordGT90Concept · Apr 30, 2009

CrAsHnBuRnXp said:
Remember now too, my dad's DFI LP LT P35 rig is doing the same thing.

Does your computer and your dad's share any components (hardware and software)?

Have they both always done it? Did one start before the other? Did the hardware change in those computers before and after the problem began? Did the problems both start at about the same time?

CrAsHnBuRnXp · Apr 30, 2009

Mussels said:
well in that case, we can pretty much conclude its a BIOS setting.

no idea where to start on that tho, except 'power management'

Wish I knew where to start. There isnt that much in the power management area.

Morrison5891 said:
Not sure if this is the issue in your case or not... but i've seen this problem a few times before and it ended up being the audio drivers from creative.

Mostly XP system, seen in once so far in Windows 7

Ill try uninstalling the sound and see if the problem persists.

FordGT90Concept said:
Does your computer and your dad's share any components (hardware and software)?

Have they both always done it? Did one start before the other? Did the hardware change in those computers before and after the problem began? Did the problems both start at about the same time?

My dad's computer is as follows:

DFI LP LT P35
E5200
8800GTS 512
80GB hdd, 300GB hdd
Sata DVD drives
4GB of ram i cant recall ATM
OCZ 600w PSU
Soundblaster Live! 24-bit (I think)

BroBQ · Apr 30, 2009

I would remove the sound card completely from the system, uninstall the drivers then reboot and see what happens.

r9 · Apr 30, 2009

Either is PSU problem or Wake on Lan is enabled in bios and it is starting your PC.

crtecha · Apr 30, 2009

DO you have any schedualed tasks? I dont think that would cause issue right from power down but check just in case.

If you unplug and disconnect your connection and try does it still power back up?

have you checked this out too?

One more thing. Have you tried a different power button?

CrAsHnBuRnXp · Apr 30, 2009

Morrison5891 said:
I would remove the sound card completely from the system, uninstall the drivers then reboot and see what happens.

Doesnt make a difference. Power still comes back on by itself.

r9 said:
Either is PSU problem or Wake on Lan is enabled in bios and it is starting your PC.

Tested the PSU and it checked out fine. I have no Wake on Lan option in the BIOS. I have gone as far as removing the LAN cable from the motherboard and it still pops on.

crtecha said:
DO you have any schedualed tasks? I dont think that would cause issue right from power down but check just in case.

If you unplug and disconnect your connection and try does it still power back up?

have you checked this out too?
http://www.dslreports.com/r0/download/1422227~2915c343e0fdd8d941d02f0f7b447fca/shutdown.jpg

One more thing. Have you tried a different power button?

I dont have any scheduled tasks. I have my computer on a UPS and if i shut down the computer right away and then hit the power button on the UPS, it still tries to power on.

And what is that JPEG of?

crtecha · Apr 30, 2009

advanced tab in the power options. Gives you the options to choose what happens when you press the power button. With the options Do Nothing, Ask me what to do, stand by and shutdown

BroBQ · Apr 30, 2009

Before you installed Windows 7 - was it doing this?

Polaris573 · Apr 30, 2009

Sounds like something is shorting the "power on" button after you shut down, and that holding the button discharges whatever residual charge is causing the short. I have to ask, did you put the motherboard on its risers when you installed it?

The quick restart after you turn it on was common with the P35 motherboards I don't know about P45. It has something to do with the memory controller detecting the RAM if I remember correctly.

CrAsHnBuRnXp · Apr 30, 2009

crtecha said:
advanced tab in the power options. Gives you the options to choose what happens when you press the power button. With the options Do Nothing, Ask me what to do, stand by and shutdown

Its set to Shutdown by default. Never touched it. (i checked to make sure)

Morrison5891 said:
Before you installed Windows 7 - was it doing this?

I was dual booting Win7 and Vista (both x64) and it was doing it in Vista as well.

Polaris573 said:
Sounds like something is shorting the "power on" button after you shut down, and that holding the button discharges whatever residual charge is causing the short. I have to ask, did you put the motherboard on its risers when you installed it?

Sounds plausable but i dont think I have ever removed the front panel off this case since Ive gotten it. And yes I did put the motherboard on the risers when I installed it. I even went as far as to put a layer of styrofoam that came with my motherboard between the risers and the motherboard and I still get the same result.

BroBQ · Apr 30, 2009

Hmm ... try removing the power comming from the power switch. Jump the two pins with a small screwdriver or something... then after it boots into Windows try shutting it down by shorting the 2 jumpers again and see what happens

CrAsHnBuRnXp · Apr 30, 2009

Ive tried shorting the pins and it wont jump.

BroBQ · Apr 30, 2009

Do you have a spare case around that you can take the power botton off of and place it on the computer with the issue?

CrAsHnBuRnXp · Apr 30, 2009

Morrison5891 said:
Do you have a spare case around that you can take the power botton off of and place it on the computer with the issue?

Doubt it would really matter because I tried using the power and reset switch on the motherboard and it produces the same result.

I have also tried using a live Linux CD to shutdown and it boots right back up.

BroBQ · Apr 30, 2009

The only other thing I could suggest is running quciktech pro or some other diagnostics software to test all the hardware. Quicktech is the best and if it is hardware related... it will pinpoint the problem

CrAsHnBuRnXp · Apr 30, 2009

Morrison5891 said:
The only other thing I could suggest is running quciktech pro or some other diagnostics software to test all the hardware. Quicktech is the best and if it is hardware related... it will pinpoint the problem

Everything passed. Hmmm.

BroBQ · Apr 30, 2009

Do you have Nero or Easy CD Creator installed? what other software is installed on the system?

BroBQ · Apr 30, 2009

Some other suggestions:

Disable windows hibranation
load fail safe defaults in bios
adjust power management in bios - ACPI StandBy State if you have this option
remove all devices from the computer - all usb printes, keyboard/mouse/ext hdd, etc ... if you have onboard video, remove the video card, audio card and anything else...

CrAsHnBuRnXp · Apr 30, 2009

Morrison5891 said:
Some other suggestions:

Disable windows hibranation
load fail safe defaults in bios
adjust power management in bios - ACPI StandBy State if you have this option
remove all devices from the computer - all usb printes, keyboard/mouse/ext hdd, etc ... if you have onboard video, remove the video card, audio card and anything else...

Dont think its enabled but ill check.

I have

Dont have a printer connected, ill remove teh mouse and keyboard one at a time and see what happens. Dont have onboard video, tried the audio card to no avail.

BroBQ · Apr 30, 2009

you can also try:

PowerOn by PCI Card in the bios.

not sure what else to try at this point

BababooeyHTJ · Apr 30, 2009

1) have you updated the bios on the board? I had a simiar issue on an older P4 rig that wouldn't shut down but would reboot fine and the only solution was to disable ACPI support on the XP install but this was a very old board. Either way I would update or if your bios is up to date flash with AFUDOS.EXE /iBIOSfile*.rom /PBNC /N That will completely wipe the old bios.

FordGT90Concept · Apr 30, 2009

CrAsHnBuRnXp said:
My dad's computer is as follows:

DFI LP LT P35
E5200
8800GTS 512
80GB hdd, 300GB hdd
Sata DVD drives
4GB of ram i cant recall ATM
OCZ 600w PSU
Soundblaster Live! 24-bit (I think)

I see one potential link: Both your computer and your dads have an OCZ power supply. PSU testers only check if the rails are kicking--not stability. I'd try a different, non OCZ PSU. If that doesn't work, I'd try moving the computer to a different room and see if it does it on a different circuit.

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