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Computer hangs on Windows Logo, help!

Discussion in 'General Hardware' started by hooj, May 27, 2012.

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    Hello, i am having trouble yet again. This time i removed my nvidia drivers and it boots past the windows logo everytime so i guess it's a driver problem. Everytime i reinstall new drivers i can't get past the windows logo, any help? I've also tried driver sweeper to no avail.
     
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    So i can boot into normal mode with no nvidia drivers and i can boot using the integrated Intel GPU on my mobo but just not with updated nvidia drivers via PCI-E GPU. Any help please?
     
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    Hi

    follow this guide by erocker - http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/showthread.php?t=52502
    ; if after doing this you are still unable to boot into windows with the Nvidia Forceware drivers then you may need to RMA if still in warranty.

    as a last resort you could try forcing the drivers in VGA mode by raising the resolution, but this would only work until the next boot, when you would have to repeat the process

    atb (all the best)

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    I used to love XP, then realized what people were saying was true, that it hangs and corrupts much worse than W7. Yeah it has a repair option, but it's a temp fix at best, because it never succeeds at rewriting things very well.

    That said, I HAVE been able to more than once get much better results than you're indicating via an XP repair. So if the problems are not in fact driver related vs OS corruption, I have to wonder what condition the BIOS is in.

    Often times on XP I've had success fixing problems with a CMOS reset, and I've seen others I suggested it to see the same results. Depends what the problem is. If you're not sure how to reset the CMOS, look in the MB manual if you have it, Google for it, or let us know the MB model. It's more likely to work on older vs newer MBs, but it's worth a shot.

    When reinstalling drivers though, make SURE you use clean install methods. Either manually remove the old ones, or in the case of Nvidia's superior installer, you can opt to perform a clean install simultaneously, and it will do it for you. If I'm REALLY worried about clean driver installs, I use Driver Cleaner, Driver Sweeper, or even Revo Uninstaller, all of which find all the tid bits left behind.

    As far as W7 goes, it may very well get corrupted too, eventually, but I find it's been FAR more resistant to it than XP ever was. I've used it for over a yr and a half now with no format. Furthermore it's Debugging and Last Known Good Config options can actually work, whereas XP's never did.

    I also like that W7 has better compatibility modes, despite many claiming the reverse, and that it carefully loads settings and lets you know progress on the welcome screen when rebooting after a big series of updates. I don't get constant send error report messages anymore like I did with XP either.
     
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    I got rid of XP, formatted and installed Windows 7 and installed the newest nvidia drivers. Now when i boot with my monitor connected to my PCI-E GPU it goes into power saving mode. However everything works when i boot up with my monitor connected to my Integrated GPU.

    So if and when i sort out the power saving mode problem my computer still hangs on the windows logo whilst connected to the PCI-E GPU, does that mean my GPU needs replacing?
     
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    So my suspicions were correct.

    Like most other forums, most people here seem to refuse that Nvidia drivers cause issues.

    Behind all the "ATI DRIVERS SUCK" threads are people whom are in denial about Nvidia's equally dodgy drivers.

    Congratulations moving to Windows 7 :)

    The issue seems to be driver or a physical video card related issue. The 9600GT is well over 4 year sold so it could be naturally degrading. If you game it's time to replace it soon regardless.

    ps. also make sure you are installing the latest drivers. v301.42. Tue May 22, 2012.

    http://www.geforce.com/drivers
     
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    Roll back to older drivers man.
     
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    Hi

    If you have access to another PC install the Inno3D 9600GT 512MB in it; if you have same issue not able to get into windows, RMA the card if in warranty.

    +1 TheMailMan78; this is worth a shot

    atb

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    Tried that whist i was on XP and it failed, you think it might work in Windows 7?
     
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    I don't think anyone, including the OP, have proven the specific cause of the problem. He's on a pretty old model of card, and it might be he just hasn't tried the best driver version for it yet, or has BIOS corruption, or even a problem with his Pci-Ex bus or slot the GPU is in.

    Finding which driver to use for older GPUs (with literally no help from Nvidia because they have no such database) is about the only real caveat of using their product, but it's not hard to find the best driver via Googling since SO many people use their product and have already done such trial and error testing.

    Both ATI and Nvidia have driver issues at times, but after owning both for several years each, I have found Nvidia to be far more consistent at their new driver versions working right, they're quicker at fixing problems when they don't, their SLI consistently works better than Xfire, their installer is FAR better and does clean installs, their software in general is more stable, quicker to load, and less bloated, and they also have better long term driver support on older GPUs. With my X1950Pro it was relegated to Legacy support only, about a year before I stopped using it.

    What really woke me up though was a call I made to ATI HQ in Can back when ALL MoH titles suddenly stopped working when Cat 5.7 was released. It had already been an ongoing issue for weeks, and there was an effective workaround a Rage3D forum member mentioned that people had to use to get by.

    When I mentioned it to the ATI tech, he was not only oblivious to the problem, despite it being a pretty big game at the time, he was very snobbishly implying those complaining probably just didn't know how to install the game or the drivers properly, even though I had just told him I used the workaround mentioned on the forum with success.

    The ATI driver just wasn't able to open the OpenGL API properly, so you had to extract the OpenGL driver in the game files, and place it in the game directory. On the rare occasion this happens with Nvidia in that game, it means you don't have the latest driver, Google for it. The ATI driver couldn't even do it with the latest version, and the "tech" was not only clueless when I explained that to him, he was persistently arrogant.

    A few months later, a few MONTHS mind you, I saw in the ATI driver release notes for their next driver that they had finally recognized a problem with all MoH titles, and were working on a solution. Oh yeah, real good "support" ATI. When random forum searches produce better support than the GPU designers themselves, you know it's pitiful service, esp if you have to put up with attitudes along the way. Sticking with Nvidia, and no regrets.

    When I was on my ATI cards I always looked for Omega drivers. They're basically streamlined ATI drivers with bug fixes. Angel "Omegaman" Trinidad was right when he constantly related to how bad ATI's installer is, and what a PITA it was to dig into their drivers each release and find out how many problems they had with them.

    There was a short period that he was making Nvidia driver tweaks too, but that was mostly right after they started using SLI, and those problems are pretty much in the past. ATI had big problems right after implementing Xfire too, in fact they still have issues with Xfire.
     
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