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Considering this build as an upgrade to a 6 year old comp

Discussion in 'System Builder's Advice' started by thill3, Jan 8, 2010.

  1. SummerDays New Member

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    Let me tell you a little story, that will explain what I mean.

    A guy goes out and he gets environmental testing done on his car, so he now has a piece of paper that says: "this car passes environmental standards in this state"

    another guy comes along and says.. "well, duh, that car didn't need testing.. of course it's going to pass environmental testing"

    The point is now he has a piece of paper that says that the car has been tested.

    Now stop fucking wasting my time.
     
  2. slyfox2151

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    Ok quick sum up of the parts


    Cpu - I7 920 / 930 $290.
    Cpu Cooler - S1283V - Scuthe Mugen 2 $50
    Motherboard - Asus P6T delux $280
    Ram - 6GB kit DDR3 1600mhz $160
    Video Card - 5870 $440
    SSD - Crucial CT64M225 2.5 ... maybe buy 2 and use RAID 0. $240 or $480
    PSU 750watt Corsair $130
    Monitor - should change to an LED backlit, either Samsung LG. (imo :p havnt ever tried a view sonic)
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824001317$200

    works out to be $1900 roughly. prices are avaraged within $20 of most prices listed, so it should be less.


    Edit,
    stole some idea's from n-ster :D
     
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  3. n-ster

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    If it was a waste of time for you, WHY THE HELL ARE YOU ON THIS THREAD?

    TBH, if there is a Prius with that damn piece of paper and one without it we'll still know a prius is environmental friendly...
     
  4. slyfox2151

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    your point is mute, end of story.

    just drop it. -.-
     
  5. n-ster

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    IMO, monitor wise,

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824001317

    LED is that that much better IMO, resolution on this baby is a much better plus

    As a cooler, why not watercooling? IMO it is very easy to maintain... else a S1283V or a Scuthe Mugen 2 is a better choice IMO

    RAM shouldn't be over 150$ IMO... The performance difference is just not that much...

    I hate that mobo... a Gigabyte UD5 would do GREAT

    I still think RAID 0 is very doable for the OP, so 2 vertex turbos in RAID 0 would do good

    how about a 5890 :eek:
     
  6. crazyeyesreaper

    crazyeyesreaper Chief Broken Rig

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    CASE: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119213

    HDD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136337

    SSD:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227462

    CPU + MOBO combo http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.314990

    RAM:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231225

    CPU heatsink:http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233029

    Thermal Paste: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835186020

    DVD burner: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827136167

    Operating System: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116754

    GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150443

    PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139006

    Monitor: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824001309

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    and it comes in UNDER the $2400 price tage the OP stated

    and if go with the LED monitor mentioned above no real reason not to besides the somewhat funky resolution ( at least to me) then u would save money so eitherway take it or leave this is my advise it fits your budget and with a few other ideas from other members the price can be lowered at no impact to performance

    going with the monitor N-ster suggested http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824001317

    results in a price drop of exactly $100 so $2324 drops to $2224

    the SSD i have chosen is 120gb 230MB/s Read 135MB/s write with 1.5million hours MTBF

    not to mention the mail in rebates cover shipping so it works out rather well
     
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  7. thill3 New Member

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    One more time

    Ok, so I've been thinking about a lot of things that people have been saying in here lately. I appreciate everyone's help, and I hope that this can remain a civil discussion. I do want to say that I think I went a little overboard in my initial setup, and that scaling some of it back a bit would prevent me from overdoing things.

    As far as SSD's go, I wanted one because of the read/write speeds. It appears, though, that in order to get the space I need, I'm going to be spending more money than I really want to spend on storage. I think I'm going to take the suggestion of a Samsung F3. I don't really need 1TB of storage, so I'll probably go with the 500GB model for $55. Link here.

    Based on some of the reading I've done on video cards and the suggestions of some people here, I think I'll go ahead and switch to a single XFX 5870 (maybe splurge on a second one for crossfire at a later point in time). Link here.

    I like also the Samsung LED monitor that was suggested, so I'll switch my setup to include one of those. Link here.

    I think I'm going to scale back to 6GB of RAM. Switching over to OCZ gets me lower timings and a lower price. It looks like I may have to set some settings manually when going with the EVGA board, but I don't think that'll be too hard. Link here.

    The CPU/MoBo combo that crazyeyesreaper suggested looks good to me.EVGA+920.

    The reason I chose the fan that I did was because it seemed to be a good combination of CFM with a low noise level. The one you're suggesting, crazyeyesreaper, can get up to 31 decibels, which is far above the 19 and change at which the Noctua maxxes out. The one you suggested is 30 bucks cheaper, though. I'm not sure it's going to make a whole heckuva lot of difference, and I'll make that decision when I make the final purchase.

    I'm going to stick with the Silverstone RV-02 case, the Corsair 750W power supply, and the Windows 7 home premium OEM.

    Essentially that leaves peripherals. Optical drive (thanks, crazyeyesreaper, for your suggestion), speakers (not sure I need a sound card), keyboard, mouse, headset, etc.
     
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    the monitor linked (that I suggested) I think is not LED... the real advantage of it is the resolution... IMO LED is not a must, just a nice plus... Going to a normal 21.5" 1080p would be good, LED or not...

    I suggest a 500gb or 640gb Caviar Black for better speeds and, IMO, customer service and a 5yr warranty...

    as for CPU cooling, S1283V is one of the BEST Bang/Buck

    If you are downgrading like that, you better get a cheaper Motherboard... A cheap 1366 mobo is still AWESOME

    RAM, if you can, Buy it used... Mobo too....

    bloomstick360 is selling a great mobo for only 160$ ;) Jump on it while it is still there
     
  9. crazyeyesreaper

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    i made my suggestions the samsung F3 is a faster HDD overall the 1 terabyte being faster then the 500gig drive and more space is a good thing because as you fill an HDD it slows down the more u fill it the slower it gets example my F3 1 terabyte has read speeds as high as 144MB/s and as low as 80MB/s but i have to fill it with nearly 750gigs of data before the speed drop becomes noticeable and since a 1 terabyte samsung F3 is $73-80 its about $25 more for dbl the space of the 500gig

    as far as 31 db noise im sorry to say i OWN the xigmatek darknight and its fan is silent thanks in part to the rubber grommits used to attach it to the heatsink it dosent vibrate or make noise my psu fan makes more noise then the cpu fan does and my tower in my specs is less then 1 foot to my left on top of my desk

    if you want it i can easily redo the above build and scale it back but im not going to unless asked

    just dropping the SSD alone brings the price down from $2280 shipped to $1912 shipped

    but if u go with the Raven RV02 case that takes the price up to about $1950 ish if i had used the regular HAF932 with red fans price drops to roughly $1900 even and going with the HAF 922 (the midtower version of the 932) drops the price $1847 shipped
     
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  10. thill3 New Member

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    What exactly is it that I'm doing that you consider serious "downgrading", n-ster? The RAM? Switching out the SSD for a HDD (whatever size)? Dropping to one video card instead of two?

    One thing I think has kind of been glossed over in the past few posts in this thread is that I"m looking for upgrade potential as well. My current desktop (the six year old one, remember that blurb in the initial post?) is so outdated that even when I was looking for upgrades 3 or 4 years ago they were hard to find. If I have some extra cash down the line, maybe a bonus from work or a present from someone or something, I'd like to be able to upgrade my rig without having to overhaul it.
     
  11. crazyeyesreaper

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    well i7 is fine for that u can always put in a new GPU with ease should the 5870 get old eitherway the choice with the build is up to you i upgrade every 2 years or so to a completely new build so i didnt need i7 right now but if u plan to keep the rig for the long term your going the right way about it anyway my post above explains quite abit about what u can do to drop the price with the above ideas ive offered u can get the price down under $1850 if the samsung F3 1 terabyte was available on Newegg it would be possible to get it down to about $1810

    basically your asking for advice ppl will offer there different opinions but it goes without saying good advice is only good advice if its taken used and gives you what u need or something like that im to tired to remember the quote properly
     

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