1. Welcome to TechPowerUp Forums, Guest! Please check out our forum guidelines for info related to our community.

Continuing mechanical keyboard issue

Discussion in 'Motherboards & Memory' started by AsRock, Jan 12, 2014.

  1. AsRock

    AsRock TPU addict

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2007
    Messages:
    10,992 (4.10/day)
    Thanks Received:
    1,720
    Location:
    US
    Hello, About 2 1/2 some years thing years ago i invested in the Z68 motherboard and got a mechanical keyboard ( Razer Blackwidow Ult ) too which started to show a issue were the key would not type or it would spam the letter \ number pressed so i sent it back and got a new one and after about 7 months got the issue again.

    Then i got a Z77 about 10 months ago and picked up a new mechanical keyboard ( Ryos MK Pro ) when it was released a few months ago and again started to get the same symptoms were the keys type or not or spam the key pressed.

    I started to think it was the keyboard at fault but i have had a new one since then and since it's started yet again and the Z68 and Z77 are so alike is the only thing really the same still.

    You think it could be the PSU at fault making the keyboards faulty ?. It's the only thing i can think of coursing the issue now but every time i checked the voltages they all been pretty spot on even when gaming although of course this is though software.

    One thing for sure i have a keyboard killer some were.. Just to note i have had 0 issue with any other piece of hardware over the last 2 so years.
     
  2. Mussels

    Mussels Moderprator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2004
    Messages:
    42,372 (11.55/day)
    Thanks Received:
    9,677
    it could also be software. i actually had a virus that was typing gibberish letters of code on my screen at one point about a year ago.
     
  3. AsRock

    AsRock TPU addict

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2007
    Messages:
    10,992 (4.10/day)
    Thanks Received:
    1,720
    Location:
    US
    Well for the longest time i just put it down as Razer being crap which did not need any encouragement due to 3 of their mice failing for the same issue. Had a few idea's what it could be even the ASRock software which i only use for fan setting and every thing else is disabled although it is the common thing and as seen as he's the 2nd person ( FordGT) to think it could be that software or other i may as well try it.

    Although i will have to change my PSU anyways the things has done it's time for sure just a shame i missed the newegg sales lol...


    Anyways if it is that software making the issue it's done it's damage as the keyboard still does it :(.... Sso will have to wait see if it gets worse and give egg a shout on my RMA. Shame there iss not a way to get ASRock to pay for the hassle and damages it's coursed saying it is the issue.
     
  4. Mussels

    Mussels Moderprator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Oct 6, 2004
    Messages:
    42,372 (11.55/day)
    Thanks Received:
    9,677
    does the keyboard do it on another machine? does another keyboard do the same thing on your PC?


    are you really dirty and hairy and is your keyboard full of yucky stuff?
     
  5. AsRock

    AsRock TPU addict

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2007
    Messages:
    10,992 (4.10/day)
    Thanks Received:
    1,720
    Location:
    US
    Well that's just it both machines are so a like ones the Z68 Extreme3 Gen3 and the other is Z77 Extreme 4 and they are real a like and that software has been ran on the both all the time..

    No yukky stuff involved, i might eat while gaming but i eat at a distance nothing worse than having food in your keyboard lol.
     
  6. GreiverBlade

    GreiverBlade

    Joined:
    May 9, 2012
    Messages:
    2,246 (2.51/day)
    Thanks Received:
    1,567
    Location:
    Ovronnaz, Wallis, Switzerland
    never had that issue... i have a ASRock Z77 Extreme 4 i had a Ryos MK (non Pro) for a test drive before i got my Gigabyte K8100v2
    i would expect that from a Razer keyboard but not from a Ryos MK Pro ... my Razer lycosa was having some weird behavior (lightning going off and on periodically )

    the only things that is similar in your setup between the Z68 and Z77 is you, so the problem might not be ASRock and they will not likely pay as there is no problems with their product right ? (light joke, lame joke :D )

    still i highly doubt the mobo would have "damaged" a mechanical keyboard ...
     
  7. AsRock

    AsRock TPU addict

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2007
    Messages:
    10,992 (4.10/day)
    Thanks Received:
    1,720
    Location:
    US
    Test drive ?.. the problem takes longer than a few weeks to arise, normally a few months before it starts showing it.. Well in about a week i be sending the keyboard back to egg and getting me money back and order another one..

    And yes of course ASRock would not even if it was them at fault as most electronics are supposed to except interference and what not. How ever their software coursing it is probably backed by some BS that you use at your own risk lol.

    I wont know more until a few week gotta order a nice PSU and get this keyboard replaced.
     
  8. GreiverBlade

    GreiverBlade

    Joined:
    May 9, 2012
    Messages:
    2,246 (2.51/day)
    Thanks Received:
    1,567
    Location:
    Ovronnaz, Wallis, Switzerland
    i had it for 4 month it's a bit more than a few weeks eh? and nope nothing showed up (i like to test my keyboard for a small time before deciding what i take :D lucky my local retailer see no problems by lending me some hardware to choose)

    ASRock 970 Extreme 3 R2.0 nothing aswell ASRock Z68 Extreme 3 Gen3 no issue aswell but now i have only my Z77 Extreme 4

    and nope i still dont think it is their software who did that.
     
    AsRock says thanks.
  9. erixx

    erixx

    Joined:
    Mar 24, 2010
    Messages:
    3,436 (2.05/day)
    Thanks Received:
    486
    i have had more than once a crazy persistent key and it always was: CLEANING :nutkick:
     
  10. AsRock

    AsRock TPU addict

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2007
    Messages:
    10,992 (4.10/day)
    Thanks Received:
    1,720
    Location:
    US
    it's not a sticking issue or a dust issue the dam things cleaned every few days. With the Razer i ent though the pain in the ass of striping the keyboard down ( stupid clips ) and still no go.

    EDIT: to be more accurate cleaned keys for dut every few days and cleaned throughout monthly when it looks like it needs it.
     
    Last edited: Jan 14, 2014
  11. Chetkigaming

    Chetkigaming

    Joined:
    Nov 23, 2013
    Messages:
    238 (0.71/day)
    Thanks Received:
    57
    Thats so strange really) What about your OS? Do you reinstall it after changing mobos?
     
  12. Solaris17

    Solaris17 Creator Solaris Utility DVD

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2005
    Messages:
    17,260 (5.15/day)
    Thanks Received:
    3,598
    Location:
    Florida
    Actually my razer black widow ult just started doing this about 2 days ago.

    interestingly enough it happened after I installed that synapse bullshit.
     
    GreiverBlade and AsRock say thanks.
  13. de.das.dude

    de.das.dude Pro Indian Modder

    Joined:
    Jun 13, 2010
    Messages:
    7,792 (4.89/day)
    Thanks Received:
    2,061
    thats what happens when you have unprotected fap sessions



    OP since you say 7 months or so it might be some dirt issue, unless you clean the insides of the keys as well, i.e. the working bits. even if you are clean and stuff, your sweat and dead skin cells will accumulate. some people (like me) have a bad kinda sweat that is oily and gets into things and corrosive even.
     
  14. AsRock

    AsRock TPU addict

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2007
    Messages:
    10,992 (4.10/day)
    Thanks Received:
    1,720
    Location:
    US
    Clean OS even made a fresh image.

    Well that is interesting as my Ryos was on the same install that synapse was on just before i did a complete reinstall and all..

    Although you would think many more people be having the issue though huh ?.
     
    Solaris17 says thanks.
  15. GreiverBlade

    GreiverBlade

    Joined:
    May 9, 2012
    Messages:
    2,246 (2.51/day)
    Thanks Received:
    1,567
    Location:
    Ovronnaz, Wallis, Switzerland
    NEVER EVER INSTALL SYNAPSE! i had a Lycosa.... and it as the only keyboard with a weird behavior and i installed synapse ... i should have spotted that at the beginning of the thread... but maybe its not that either... but worth a shot at it.

    wait you did a clean install ... hum ... i don't know now ... dang...
     
  16. Solaris17

    Solaris17 Creator Solaris Utility DVD

    Joined:
    Aug 16, 2005
    Messages:
    17,260 (5.15/day)
    Thanks Received:
    3,598
    Location:
    Florida
    possibly Ill look into it buyt my mobo is failing too so maybe synapse doesnt have anything to do with it. maybe were just on opposite sides of a coin in the fucked machine.
     
  17. AsRock

    AsRock TPU addict

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2007
    Messages:
    10,992 (4.10/day)
    Thanks Received:
    1,720
    Location:
    US
    Thing is that software was installed for a short time before the reinstall. I might not find which is doing it but hopefully it's one of them so this dam issue can be solved to some degree..

    Shame it's making them faulty as i do not have the time to be shipping keyboards back to ROCCAT every month or so.
     
  18. newtekie1

    newtekie1 Semi-Retired Folder

    Joined:
    Nov 22, 2005
    Messages:
    20,029 (6.15/day)
    Thanks Received:
    6,094
    It could be you are actually damaging the switches in the keyboard. My friend killed half the keys on his mechanical keyboard when he pulled the key tops off to clean it. From what I gather, upward pulling on the keys and sideways torque can very easily damage mechanical keyboards.
     
    AsRock says thanks.
    Crunching for Team TPU 50 Million points folded for TPU
  19. erocker

    erocker Super Moderator Staff Member

    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2006
    Messages:
    39,792 (13.19/day)
    Thanks Received:
    14,170
    My Black Widow did the same thing on two keys. Bad switches and unfortunately for such an expensive keyboard, they aren't replaceable.
     
    AsRock says thanks.
  20. micropage7

    micropage7

    Joined:
    Mar 26, 2010
    Messages:
    5,940 (3.55/day)
    Thanks Received:
    1,379
    Location:
    Jakarta, Indonesia
    i had non mechanical keyboard that act the same, its from keyboard and i dunno how could different keyboard has the same err.
    btw have you test by using different ports, or just test it by using different cables
    or before its black out whats the symptoms?
     
  21. Paladone

    Joined:
    Dec 5, 2012
    Messages:
    421 (0.61/day)
    Thanks Received:
    24
    I was having this issue also with a razer blackwidow ult where the "s" key would not work or type doubles. It however seemed to fix when I updated the firmware and installed razer synapse.
     
  22. AsRock

    AsRock TPU addict

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2007
    Messages:
    10,992 (4.10/day)
    Thanks Received:
    1,720
    Location:
    US
    Yeah i don't twist the keys in fact the M keys you can grab hold of and pull off. But yeah would not take all that much to damage one that's for sure.

    They been plugged in to so many ports it' like a whore house.

    seemed that way to me back with the 1st razor BWU but maybe it was just wishful thinking.


    Were you using their new software as it seemed to be around that time it started.. Surly more peopple would of complained about it if the software was to blame huh ?.
     
    GreiverBlade says thanks.
  23. GreiverBlade

    GreiverBlade

    Joined:
    May 9, 2012
    Messages:
    2,246 (2.51/day)
    Thanks Received:
    1,567
    Location:
    Ovronnaz, Wallis, Switzerland
    mostly updating firmware did the trick ... installing Razer Synapse was not the solution but a plague.
    cloud preset storing ... what a joke (and also with the scandal of the data harvested by Razer xD ) onboard profile memory is still the way to go ...

    Razer Synapse: a good way to fubar your keyboard or mouse (OOHHHH i got a new slogan!)

    btw i remembered that when i had my Lycosa acting weird (keyboard... not a wolf spider) i had a Naga (mouse... not the serpent/human hybride) who fried the sensore and the thumb 12button pad stopped working and it was 1 or 2 weeks after i decided to give a go to Synapse...

    never again a Razer for me (except mousepad ... and headset ... i kinda like my Destructor and my Electra)

    best quote of the day ... you, sire, made my day! and probably my week ...
     
  24. AsRock

    AsRock TPU addict

    Joined:
    Jun 23, 2007
    Messages:
    10,992 (4.10/day)
    Thanks Received:
    1,720
    Location:
    US
    Well a little update even if it will sound strange.. I got a new keyboard just over a month ago and it was great till about 9 days ago, all the things that i expected it to be stayed uninstalled or\and disabled this included legacy USB..

    I needed to enter the bios to change some thing ( fan settings ) so i plugged in a good old keyboard and put it aside after i was done although i left it plugged in then suddenly maybe a day or two my letter P started the issue so 1st thing i thought i would do was to unplug that keyboard and the problem is there with the P key how ever it's not got any worse over the last week..

    Yes i know it sounds strange but every thing is pointing right to that at this time so going sit tight and see if the problem gets any worse over the next week if not i believe i have my suspect..
     
  25. ne6togadno

    ne6togadno

    Joined:
    Mar 15, 2013
    Messages:
    1,351 (2.31/day)
    Thanks Received:
    593
    Location:
    GMT +2
    i had similar issues with my stealseries shift (it is ruber dome not mech). changed stealseries engine (kb software) and problem has gone.
     
    AsRock says thanks.

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guest)

Share This Page