Discussion in 'Comments & Feedback' started by W1zzard, Nov 26, 2005.
Is it like partially disabled? Cache I mean...
Yes it's 512 cache is disabled but it's still a Toledo core, it's not a Manchester.
E6 Revision = Toledo
E4 Revision = Manchester
My 512kb Toledo
1MB Toledo http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/4810/32m28135621za.jpg
True Manchester E4 Revision http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/8854/32m9fc.png
Toledo's have a bigger die then the Manchesters.
I don't think it will be put in, can cause to much confusion. It's still showed as a Manchester core, it's only the revision that's different. They are still basically the same core, with different L2 cache. The bigger die is just because of the cache.
no, thank you.
I'll look around... there is mistakes in it. Corrected a few already, it just got a little hard on the head when working on all those cpu's.
nope. my bad.
he has a newcastle
May be a little late, or already mentioned, but the 754 Newcastle 3400+ is 2.4Ghz 200x12. Not 2.2 as listed.
Seems to be missing several Celeron D processors, especially the socket 478 versions.
According to CPU-Z, I have a Celeron D 320, mPGA-478, 2400mHz, 18x multiplier, 90nm, 1.4v(unsure), 16KB L1, 256KB L2, no L3. The TDP I'm not sure of.
Incidentally, I believe the proper codename for all Celeron D processors is actually Prescott-256, not just Prescott.
I also had a 1700mHz Willamette Celeron, 17x multiplier, 128KB L2, mPGA-478. The rest of the specs I'm unsure of, as it's not usable at the moment.
Some of the Celerons are missing, it's very hard to get every single cpu in there, but we're working on it. The core is a Prescott, but it has 256KB of L2 cache instead of 1024KB, and that's the reason for the "Prescott-256".
it's a modified prescott core, actually...
in more ways than just cache, too.
edit: I almost forgot... the 3x6 and 3x1 celeron Ds are pretty much identical to their 3x5 and 3x0 counterparts, except they have EM64T and XD enabled.
They have less cache, a slower fsb (higher mulitplier in return) and a few less features (HT, NX-Bit in some cases, etc). They are still the Prescott core, just "modified" like you said.
Celerons are chips that dont make spec for the P4, their cache is cut, and some features disabled, it depends on the wafer.
very true. case in point my old celeron 2.7 (100x27) clocked up to 3.5 stabily at stock voltage. definatly a p4 with lower clocks.
Albany 2800+M in my laptop. 90nm ofcourse, 1600mhz. 256kb L2
Core 2 Extreme/Duo (Conroes & Allendales) have been added... if anyone knows the die size in mm² for them, please post them here.
Edit: Also for Merom, the mobile Conroes. (both 4MB and 2MB versions)
Conroes' and Allendales' die size is 143 mm2. Even though Allendale has half the L2, it's still physically on the die, half is just disabled.
Can you send me the link for that information?
(check Manufacturing Comparison section at the end of the page)
Same info was in Muropaketti's article about Core 2 Duo.
Allendales' transistor count is also 291M.
Although Tom's Hardware says Allendales' transistor count would be 167M and die size 111 mm^2, it's as I said before.
And Athlon 64 3500+ ClawHammer's transistor count is 106M (not 69M). The reason is the same as with Allendale - disabled L2 is still on the die.
I'm a bit confused and I may be mixing ideas/concepts. Even though Conroe package system it is showed everywhere as the FC-LGA4, in this official document by Intel at page 43 they state that Conroe uses FC LGA6 .
Here in this other document at page 37 also states that the processor is packaged in a Flip-Chip Land Grid Array (FC-LGA6) package that interfaces with the motherboard via an LGA775 socket.
Thanks in advance.
Yeah they do use FC-LGA6, I'll have to change it. Thanks for bringing that up.
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