Discussion in 'Motherboards & Memory' started by de.das.dude, Jul 19, 2010.
It will if you install it from a USB memory stick if you're not already.
DDR2 will give better performance due to timings, but DDR3 is easier short and long term.
running 4x sticks of DDR2 @ 1066MHz can be quite difficult on many systems, whereas the same with DDR3 is a walk in the park (and at MUCH lower voltages - so zero overheating concerns)
oh and yeah, flash drive method ftw... i tend to have 7 installed in under 15 minutes, and ready and gaming (thanks to my dedicated games drive) in less than 30m from a fresh format.
nope.. Im still using the DVD drive. Dont use images and/or flash drives... yet. My old ddr2 config would take 2-3 hours for a full install/driver,os updates/os tweeks. Wundows update uuugghh !! lol Now its about an hour.
wat an awsome thread i hav started. this thing is really confusing!
nothing confusing about the benefits of ddr3 !
just need to read between the sub topics
p E A C e
Btw, can I just point out have futile it is to say any computer hardware is "future proof"? There is no such thing anymore. Only future resistant.
My PII 550 was bottlenecking the ram ! At stock cpu 3.1ghz my memory would score about 900 on Passmark. Ive been Oc'd @3.5ghz, 1.3v, for the past 2 weeks and now and the scores are now 1030 hehe .. the performance boost is quite noticeable even though all Ive done is up the CPU multiplier.
DDR3 ALL THE WAY !
I'm gonna go ahead and hit you with...DDR3.
FYI my mobo can do DDR2 1300 all long with the right RAM. Its one of my mobos selling points.
Ive read the bottleneck starts at about 1000mhz, ddr2 or 3. That explains why goining to DDR3 did not show much if any performance boost. Even UAC is waay speedier lol
just because your mobo offers 1300MHz DDR2, doesnt mean its going to be easy. you have to OC to reach it, and you're only going to be able to do it witjh specific ram in two of the four slots of your board.
if you think it will be easy and that you can do it with 4 sticks, read the manual/specs more carefully - you've been duped by marketing.
i know that very well, amd CPUs dot really support OC ing in all 4 slots. and hey, i just use only one slot now.
When using the two dimms closest to the cpu, it is vital to have ram coolers w/ fans. The cpu has no room to breathe and depending on you tower/cirulation, your temps will drop at least 5-10C when you keep them vacant. Its also a bit odd that Asus recommends using dimms 0 and 1, then later mentions that dimms 3 and 4 are for better OC. Btw dimms 0 and 1 are set closest to the cpu which also makes me wonder lol.
Considering there is really no price difference, why no go DDR3 ? AM3 cpu's memory controllers run default DDR3 @1333mhz. DDR2 is 800, anything more you risk burning out your cpu. OC the cpu, not the memory.
DDR2-1066, because usually DDR2-1066 kits have lower latencies than DDR3-1066 kits (5-5-5-15 vs. 7-7-7-20)
you guys know what?? i am still using DDR2 667 oc'd to 800MHz and i still dont feel the need to upgrade to 1066MHz./ anything.
i think the full potential of DDR3 will not be required in another 4years(maybe less). Till then DDR2 is good to go.
My ddr2 800 system scored the same as my new ddr3 gear, until I oc'd the cpu. While I was expecting the obvious jump in cpu scores, the memory scores surprised me abit b/c I did not think they would change much, if any.
I wish I had a Phenom II x4 to test with.
Is the cpu speed causing the bottleneck ? Or is it b/c Im only running 2 cores ?
If you are running a similar config as mine, I want to know what your Passmark memory and cpu scores are. At stock cpu 3.1ghz, appox. Passmark Cpu 2150, Memory 900.
Logic tells me, if the cpu speed is the cause, then those w/ 3-6 cores should be scoring about the same on the memory, as those w/ 2.
running two cores is very likely, the cores DO share ram.
so 1600MHz ram has its bandwidth shared between your cores - you've got 1/3 the amount of cores i do, so you'd have a lot more room to spare before running into a bottlebeck there.
good observation tho, hadnt really occured to me before now.
What cpu and memory scores do you get running Passmark ? DDR2 or 3, but both would be nice lol...
I am considering upping my oc to 3.7, soon, so we'll see if the memory performance boost stays constant. And with my crazy low temps, idle/load cpu was only 31/42C last night heh... who knows I may try for more
DDR2 1066 is faster, but i would go DDR3 1066 or >. Just remember DDR2-1066 is just overclocked DDR2-800. Most if not all DDR2 kits will have to be manual set in BIOS from 800 to 1066.
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