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Details on Intel's Core Brand Product Placement Emerge, Gulftown to be Named Core i9

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  1. btarunr

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    Last week, Intel sketched out its strategy in dealing with its client processor brand Core, and placing its different kinds of processors in series of markers (such as "i3", "i5", and "i7"), on the merit of performance and features they offer, and not necessarily a segregation based on core type and socket type. This raised a big debate in our forums, on who is really going to benefit from this kind of branding.

    Chinese website INPAI.com.cn sourced information which explains what factors go into determining which brand marker a processor gets. The table elaborates on how different kinds of Intel processors (determined by core and socket types) cross different lines, with a few features toggled or enhanced. It is sure to throw up some surprises.

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    Intel may rebadge existing Wolfdale, Yorkfield, and Penryn Mobile chips into Core i3
    As bizarre as it seems, it looks like existing Core 2 Duo and Core 2 Quad processors are bound for a new name tag, under Core i3. The processors will form Intel's value offerings, since they compare to the lower-end derivatives of the Nehalem architecture. At this point in time, we don't know if (and don't expect) higher-end Wolfdale and Yorkfield models to make it to this series, but rather the lower-end Core 2 Duo E7000, E8000, Core 2 Quad Q8000, Q9x00, etc. to do so, as they make the most market sense with Nehalem and Westmere derivatives higher up the order. The processors will continue to be driven by existing chipsets by Intel, which include members of Intel 3-series and 4-series.

    Arrandale as Core i3, Clarkdale as Core i5
    Intel thinks its desktop dual-core Westmere derivative Clarkdale is faster and more capable than its mobile cousin Arrandale. This could be because traditionally, mobile CPUs trade off clock-speeds for energy efficiency, and make up to an extant with large caches. The Clarksfield quad-core mobile chip will get the Core i7 marker. It will come in two distinct flavours, with L3 cache sizes of 6 MB and 8 MB.

    Lynnfield in Core i5 and Core i7
    This comes as no surprise since Intel's marketing heads had already made it clear that Lynnfield would span across two brand markers. The determining factors, seem to be HyperThreading technology, and perhaps clock speeds. The Core i7 Lynnfield chip has HyperThreading technology available as a feature, and may have higher clock-speeds. The first wave of Lynnfield chips that release in Q3 2009, will be only of the Core i5 kind, while the performance Core i7 ones will follow months later, in Q1 2010.

    Say hello to Core i9
    Intel's upcoming flagship client processor, codenamed Gulftown will get the higher Core i9 marker. This 6-core chip will have every performance enhancing feature in the book available, including a total thread count of 12, and a 50% increase in L3 cache over Bloomfield, at 12 MB. It will retain compatibility with the existing LGA-1366 socket, and X58 chipset, and will be available in Q1 2010.

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    I can see i9 costing alot. But it looks damn nice. Im VERY tempted.

    I'll get a DX11 card, then an i9 setup. Nothing else.

    Any ideas on cost?
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    I don't foresee it going for anywhere under ₤700 looking at how congested it is down there.
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    If the 975 is at $1100
    That chip should be upper $1650+

    I figure $137.5 a core
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    Assuming 975XE remains, and at that price, when Gulftown comes up.
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    I don't think people are even considering the extra 600+
    for 2 extra cores

    The 975 has to stay the one to be removed is going to be the 965 if they decide

    This way the have a
    $1000 4 core w/hyperthreading
    $1650+ 6 core w/hyperthreading

    Since intel said its x58 is the high end platform
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    Some people don't mind spending an extra 600+ for a 600 MHz increase in clock-speed (and unlocked multiplier of course), both of which are less consequential than two extra cores :)
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    Thats $600 atleast could be more

    I only think a Very Few consider it, less will actually buy them

    I am having a hard time thinking what would max out a current i7 let alone i9
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    I doubt that the first 6 core will be unlock multiplier
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    6 cores 12M cash seems it is expensive , and i think the extreme i9 cost 2000$
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    Nice table, to compare across the Core series.

    Also interesting to see why QPI 3-channel is completely over-specced for i7. Because i9 with greater bandwidth demand will be on the same s1366 platform. Will it also be compatible with existing mainboards using X58 chipset? Or are second revisions needed?
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    they are going in same board

    Maybe with an update bios
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    Why do they all have to be i#? :(
    Seriously, I'm starting to hate the letter "i".
    It could have easily been "a7", "g7", "z9" or something >.>...
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    I = Intel
    LOL idk
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    I don't like how they're renaming the Core2's to i3. Wont that mean all mobo manufacturers will have to release updates to support the "i3" name? Or would anything supporting 45nm be able to do these out of the box, since they're the same CPU?
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    <- Running Core i3 720 :D

    Have to wait and see what they come up with eventually. Info changing weekly.
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    Bios update

    When the new pii came out it was unknown then with update it was fixed

    I3 is just going to confuse first time builders
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    guess ill scrap my i7 plans and wait for i9
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    Well, you know, Intel processors.
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    Historically the topmost CPU in Intel's roundup is ~1000-ish. So I think the i9 will be marketed at that level, the other ones will go lower in price.
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    Now comes the age-old question.

    Dual-i7 Quad-Core vs. Single-i9 Six-core.

    Overclocking and two extra cores to the former.
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    OBVIOUS ANSWER: Dual i9 for the win.
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    Does anyone know when AMD are planning a 6 core chip to compete? Will probably be the one to go for if intel keep prices that high!
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    they need to release the i9 in a low end form like the i7 920. 21x multi is fine with me as long as the price is decent.

    EFF $500+ though
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    must be overprice.. cant afford that:(
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    maybe in a few years time, a 6 core i9 will be an affordable upgrade for existing i7 owners ? *DROOLS* :eek::D:respect:

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