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  1. entropy13

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    Yes. See the ones I mentioned in my "buy and sell"? I tried selling them for around 30k-50k, they didn't get sold.
     
  2. Mussels

    Mussels Moderprator Staff Member

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    he means

    Gold Auction House
    Real Money Auction House
     
  3. Kreij

    Kreij Senior Monkey Moderator Staff Member

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    Oh ... the acronyms we use. Sorry, must be a bit dull today. lol

    AH = Auction House (usually refers to the gold action house)
    GAH = Gold Auction House
    RMAH = Real Money Auction House
    RES = resistance or resurrection depending on the sentence
    LoH = Life On Hit
    LoK = Life On Kill
    DPS = Damage Per Second
    WTF = (should be obvious lol)
    TMM = Our notorious member, TheMailMan78

    @Mav, just ask if you don't understand what something means. We'll be happy to explain.
     
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    you guys should join us. would revive the game for you a bit. my monk can hold just about any pack together in Act 1. or move if its got a ton of AoE effects. would be cool to get a 4 man game going one of these nights
     
  5. lyndonguitar

    lyndonguitar I play games

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    I wanna join too

    just post here if you guys are playing ill try to join
     
  6. cadaveca

    cadaveca My name is Dave

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    It will be a week or so before I attempt to play any games. I'd love to join ya guys though...we play very well together on BF3, and I assume the same will be true on Diablo, too. By that time, it'll be me having to catch up!

    I gotta ahve whatever I'm using to control things sitting on my lap. I have a wireless keyboard with mouse built into it that I am using right now, and playing BF3 with it is near impossible, but diablo might work. I'll have to give it a try when I get some time. For now, most of my time is devoted to getting reviews done...1/2-way done one, and three more waiting, while more stuff is inbound!
     
  7. 1Kurgan1

    1Kurgan1 The Knife in your Back

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    I suggest replacing Leap (Iron) with Furious Charge (Stamina). The build has a few weaknesses, and they are this.

    A) The normal build has Fury starvation issues (both between pulls and initiating). It rely's on you using War Cry (to gain 30 fury), then using Battle Rage (consumes 20 Fury), then having a target available to Leap onto (gives you 15 Fury), which leaves you with only 5 extra Fury to hit Sprint with, which is a super small window, you need to hit 2, 3, 1, right click within about 3 - 4 seconds or you have lost that 5 fury window and now have to wait for Leap to come back off CD to start your loop. And waiting 10 seconds for Leap means Battle Rage only has 20 seconds left on the CD, so 2 more cooldowns of Leap and then Battle Rage needs to be refreshed. It's just a very anal build that has no room for error. (Also Sprint Tornado's sometimes bug and don't spawn, so the leap build if that happens you are forced to wait for leap cd, where as Furious charge you have enough Fury to go again).

    B) Even playing this build perfectly, the build is a Life on Hit tank. I can stand in a good amount of shit (1300 LoH for Act 1 is plenty enough, I'm near 1900 now), but the only reason I can is because I'm gaining insane amounts of life. While Wrath of the Berserker is up everything is great, you should have no issues with anything, but if something does hit hard, or you end up running out of Wrath time, you now have to worry about Frozen, Jailer big time (especially if they have Desecrator). Because this build requires you to be moving to lay down Tornadoes for Life on Hit, Jailer just destroys this build, especially if they catch you while you are on AoE. And Leap doesn't break Jailer.

    Good thing about both those being the problems of the build is.... one ability switch fixes 2 problems with 1 stone. Change out Leap to Furious Charge (Stamina). Furious Charge breaks out of Jailer and it hits harder than Leap does. Adding the Stamina buff to it now makes starting pulls and keeping that Fury bar pegged so much easier as well. I go War Cry, Battle Rage, then Furious Charge (if I hit 4 targets I now have 47 Fury compared to 25 of the Leap build). I can fly right in there and hit Sprint and still have enough Fury to Sprint again or I can start Whirlwinding instantly. The other change I've made is I run Inspiring Presence rather than Tough as Nails. Tough as Nails might have been a requirement post patch simply because things were very hard in Act 3+. But now you got a bit of room to move, picking up some constant health regen is nice, but the big bonus is Battle Rage now lasts 1 min and War Cry lasts 2 min (thats not a big deal since you spam it to gain fury). Having a larger time frame on War Cry is just amazing, it frees up a ton of Fury to use, and makes the build feel much better, you don't have to be constantly looking for enemys because your 30 second shouts going to wear off and you need Fury to refresh it. I'll do my War Cry and Battle Rage shouts in the middle of no where, simply because I don't even need them to generate Fury anymore to initiate, Furious charge hitting 1 target creates enough Fury to Sprint. Also Furious Charge is a better tank tool if you are DPS tanking for friends, when you hit targets it pops them up in the air. So if a runner is heading for your ranged squishys, just slam into the sucker and tell him no, gives your ranged time to move away and for you to entertain him some more.

    You can try both builds if you like, but I highly suggest giving mine a shot, the small changes have a large effect. I liked the build to start with, but it felt clunky with Fury starvation issues, I toyed with it for 2 days before finally coming across this solution. Here's the entire build I run (I think if you wanted Weapons Master could go for something more defensive if you are at the gear check wall, then just pick up weapons master again when gear improves).
    http://us.battle.net/d3/en/calculator/barbarian#hUSkiP!ZYX!aZbcYc

    Also bind move to something like spacebar, using click to move while having Whirlwind on left click does not work well once you have built Fury. It works well with no targets near, but in a target area it makes WW clunky, it likes to just attach to enemys. So I just move my mouse cursor and hold down spacebar and I whirlwind around with my character following my mouse. Overall, this build is weird, it requires management of CDs, has no real Fury generating attacks, it takes getting use to, so if Act 1 is difficult, practice with it in Act 3 or 4 on Hell Diff first.
     
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  8. Urlyin

    Urlyin Senior Moderator

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    Thanks for taking the time to brain dump 1Kurgan1 ... some real good tips in there :toast:. I think res is my biggest problem right now in inferno... I could overpower mobs and use rend and pots to keep HP up for elites in hell but in inferno its bing bang boom N-ster trips me and I'm dead ...:laugh: So gear is a big issue for me but I'm game to try a new spec and is part of the game I like toying with... been playing WOW for so long I keep wanting to kick the healer .. where is that guy... :slap:
     
  9. 1Kurgan1

    1Kurgan1 The Knife in your Back

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    No problem, I know a lot of people changed to that build so just figured I'd let others know my pains and solutions to the problems I found with it.

    I ran into the same issue you had, Rend through Hell was amazing, but it's heal just wasn't enough to cut it for Inferno. I'd love to fit it in now that I got crazy Heal on Hit, but the build is so tight as it is not running a main attack and all there just isn't anything to cut, need whirlwind for more tornado's and movement through mobs. Let me know how it goes if you end up going for it.

    Biggest thing for this build for Act 1 farming, 200 - 300 LoH weapons with a socket (for LoH gem), beyond that mild resists and you should be just fine. You won't be able to stand in as much, but the build kites well as well, so thats no problem. As you get more resists you can get more in the action and keep the Wrath buff going longer.
     
  10. Kreij

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    I bought a couple of items with LoH. I made sure they had good vit so I didn't lose life, but I took a hit on damage and res.
    I can fight longer now, but it gets tough when mobs start tossing out stuff that you need res for.
    It's a tough juggling act using the AH on the cheap. :D
     
  11. ZenZimZaliben

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    Played some really good games last night after spending 6M in AH, woke up this morning with 5M in sales. :rockout:

    Found a pair of pants I couldn't pass up. 640 Armor, 2 socket, 80Int, 70Vit, 75 All Res. Only 1M. Sold my old pair for 2.5M.

    With my EA/PA active my lowest RES is 1000 and highest is 1280 (physical). My buddy joins with his Barb and with warcry most are over 1500.
     
  12. Kreij

    Kreij Senior Monkey Moderator Staff Member

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    :wtf: Perhaps the fact I've yet to spend over 30K on an item is holding me back? lol
     
  13. Jaffakeik

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    Stuck in act1 inferno, crowns quest :D even with 4 group we cant proceed
     
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  14. 1Kurgan1

    1Kurgan1 The Knife in your Back

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    Only issue with LoH is that it doesn't seem to do much unless you get many swings in. I hear it works pretty well with Frenzy, but most people I see using it with that need high LoH. If you got room in the build try and get War Cry and Sprint, thats the basic LoH combo, the rest is just a extra damage, you could run other defensive buffs if you just ran that basic combo. Though I found that with sprint and LoH using a shield actually lowered my survivability :laugh:
     
  15. ZenZimZaliben

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    Wow. That is impressive and you are in Act I inferno? Yeah you need to start expanding your horizons, especially for Inferno.

    The pants were cheap, the wand I purchased was B/O of 8M, but I waited until it was 30Min remaining...got it for 1.7M. 900DPS, 11% IAS, 100 vit, Socketed. Which I added a 80% Crit Damage to.
     
  16. pr0n Inspector

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    not worth it really, at 8k dps you're taking forever to kill something.
     
  17. TheMailMan78

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    Don't feel bad. I don't think I have even made 2M after 75 hours of play TOTAL. Dunno how people are buying stuff at 8M and such.
     
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    Kreij's main character is a monk...
     
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    me neither, i'm finishing up hell now and have yet to spend more than 30k on an item, and that was expensive. most are around 5-10k. i've only picked up just over 1M, and i've got about 100 hours in so idk what i'm doing wrong ;)
     
  20. MxPhenom 216

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    I played like an hour of this game and got really bored. Just not my type of game.
     
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    1Kurgan1 The Knife in your Back

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    I forgot about his 35 side strike, my bad.
     
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    I got bored too on my first hours, but playing with friends kept me playing. and It just gets better once you start unlocking those spells/skills. It gets better as you level. but as you go to inferno, That's when good goes bad

    Imagine uncanny valley reversed. :laugh:
     
  23. ZenZimZaliben

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    Because I didn't pickup that gold. I played AH Tycoon. Even with my GF gear @266% I still only make about 250-350K per run. You are never going to get the gold by finding it in-game. This was blizzards plan, and you have to see that?

    Buy a complete set of armor that is for GF%. Doesn't have to be great OP gear, just good enough to farm Hell or Act I. You want to be above 200% with 5NV.

    Adding GF% to your Hirelings will increase your GF, if you didn't know. Not 1:1, but it does help.

    Almost every morning after prior loot runs I will wake up to at least 1M in sales, prior to 1.0.3 it wasn't uncommon to see 2-3M.
     
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    1Kurgan1 The Knife in your Back

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    Only games that are fun within the first hour are usually racing games and online FPS's. Any sort of RPG or anything else that requires leveling for more powerful abilities takes more than an hour of invested time to get enjoyable.
     
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    I got items in there for sale now for 10k. Hell I tried to sell a legendary AX for 25k and no one bought it. Everything is in the real money auction house and its stupid. I ended up giving the Ax to one of Kreij friends for free.
     

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