Hey, So i am contemplating a xfx5800 but some newegg reviews say that its non reference, can that make much of a different... isn't it still covered by xfx? would buying an EVGA for 'legitimacy' be a sound decision? I am quite overwhelmed and need some help in regards to buying a new card direly needed. Usually I take my time, but I am under time pressure for work and school and need it ASAP. I am a Junior in University, so I also need to factor in cash (though both cards are only two pizzas away in price) In short, either This $158.99 after rebate with $15 giftcard XFX 5800 this has a replacement only policy, so i am stuck with it if i buy OR this super-clocked EVGA gts 460 that is $189.99 after rebate plus free lost cause 2/mafia 2...has standard return, so i can get money back if shit happens in 30 days My build: Q6600 Quad Core @ 2.4 4 GB corsair gaming ram ddr2 ASUS P5B mobo (one pci express slot) I do not over clock nor intend to, always had crashes even on the slightest OC BFG 550 Watt PSU Plenty of air flow, like 6 fans--so card cant easily overheat... a Westinghouse 22inch screen, DVI, no HD 1680X1050 I also have a crappy Dynex HD TV, so I like to entertain the idea of having dual display on both tv and monitor (hdmi going in tv)...though its not crucial for my use... Unfortunatley, a lot of the other forums I visited had many fanboys and lots of "it's just better" answers.. What I had? An 8800GTS from 2007, that I bought for a ridiculous amount of money and has been able to play most games I have on high settings and was O.K. for my needs. It recently crapped out and there is no warranty. What I need? A new graphics card that is incredibly fast and of good value, firstly, for some design programs, but most importantly for my heavy gaming. New Vegas, Assassin's creed 2, CIV V, Empire:Total War (Which I ALWAYS cant play the naval battles on high in, its weird), BF bad company, all the call of duty's since COD4, Crysis, etc..(basically all the new and intense games I get and try to play) all those I have and would like to be able to play them on highest settings as before but with out disruption and plenty of memory left. I used to always experience crashing with my old card, and would not like that to happen. I currently have a gtx 460 ($300 from best buy as a temp from a friend) and it too crashes and for some reason on every other restart--things revert to 8 bit (never had that before). I'd have to uninstall and reinstall, and then it works. I have the latest dirvers. Nonetheless, a new card is needed. So I am torn between an XFX 5800, I never tried their products before, but I have been told that this particular one is 'better' than the 460 I dont understand why though. On new Egg its 158.99 AFTER rebate plus a 15 dollar newegg giftcard (which i prolly wont use)...it has a lifetime warranty, which i need badly, but it has bad reviews on new egg with DOA's and it been not legit....so idk XFX HD-585X-ZAFC Radeon HD 5850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 ... OR this superclocked but discounted 460 which I hope compensates for what the regular 460 lacks versus the xfx 5800... This one is from EVGA, which i tried before, has life time, many numerous reviews which are good...this one comes out to be $189.99 AFTER rebate...though it has a free Mafia II (already own) and Lost cause 2 (dont own) which is apparently a 60 dollar value...though I really have enough games as is...but maybe this EVGA is more legit or something? I have no idea: EVGA 01G-P3-1373-AR GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) Superc... I Want to buy this like TODAY because I need to receive it before heading back to College! So please help me out!