Do You Need 4GB of RAM???

[AsRock]

My digital camera pictures are 36MB in size (high rez tif). If I want to open several of them to do digital manipulation of the images it eats up a ton of RAM. If I exceed the physical limitations I do not want the computer to crash, so I am thankful that there is a swapfile. Even if it means reduced performance.

Dam and i thought my Pentax's Raw files were large at 9-13meg lol..

 

[Kreij]

Dam and i thought my Pentax's Raw files were large at 9-13meg lol..

See if your camera will save them as full rez tif. They are actually larger tha the RAW format.
Amazing detail in the images though. I have a picture I took as the back ground on my 30" monitor and it is just stunning.

 

[trog100]

u must have a weird idea of picture taking dude if your camera saves 36 meg tiffs.. u quite clearly dont take many pictures and not very quickly either..

but how to take good pictures is one arguement i aint gonna venture into on here..

incidentally windows used to blue screen when it ran out of virtual memory but xp at least politely tells u u dont have enough memory virtual or otherwise to do whatever u are trying to do and in your case wouldnt load that one extra huge tiff and crash the machine..

but it seems my use of the word "fake" seems to suggest bad to some people.. or somehow i think the concept of making up for the lack of real ram by some other means is "bad".. i dont..

however apart from unusual people doing excessively memory hungry things it is bad not to have enough real memory to do whatever it is u do.. swopfiling is not good..

even loading and working with multiple 36 meg tiffs.. i suggest u upgrade to 8 gig dude or dont load so many at once..

trog

 

[Mussels]

even a mouse will be old skool m8 i recon mind control will rule in the future and monitors will be a little box that projects images in 3d to what ever size you want and games will look as real as real life.

I think i watch too much star trek

OCZ have already showed videos of a mind control keyboard for gaming.

 

[Mussels]

the term virtual memory means nothing to most people.. its just techno babble..

In the techie world, use the correct terms. Otherwise you look and sound like those nuggets who do tech support in retail stores... the ones who dont know squat.

Pointless using the wrong terminology, becase they people you're talking to never learn!

Virtual ram is more like substitute ram, rather than 'fake' (compare to 'fake' diamonds. fakes have no value - they only look similar. Substitutes, at least have value or a purpose, if not as good as the original)

 

[trog100]

In the techie world, use the correct terms. Otherwise you look and sound like those nuggets who do tech support in retail stores... the ones who dont know squat.

Pointless using the wrong terminology, becase they people you're talking to never learn!

Virtual ram is more like substitute ram, rather than 'fake' (compare to 'fake' diamonds. fakes have no value - they only look similar. Substitutes, at least have value or a purpose, if not as good as the original)

mussels.. i have problems with jargon of any kind.. its what keeps those in the know in the know and others in ignorance..

i also seem to understand the english language.. fake simply means false or not real..but then again so does virtual as in virtual reality.. ie not real but fake or simulated which also means not real.. okay..

also not all who read these threads are tech savvy.. a lot are newbies simply trying to learn.. these are the dudes i am trying to communicate with not u..

but its pretty much par for the course.. use simple language and folks think u are stupid.. use jargon and they think u are clever but dont understand a f-cking thing being said to em..

plus there is always the odd techie there to try and trip u up.. i have never been picked on for my use of basic semantics before.. i am quite cleary being ganged up upon.. its one after another.. all for the most silly reason imaginable..

u are number three so far.. i give up there are too many to argue with.. its a no win scenario..

trog

 

[Mussels]

i'm just saying with my experience, if you dumb it down - they get the wrong impression. You can say fake ram and they'll 'understand' quicker, but if they get the wrong idea (fake vs. substitue as i said) then you're really not helping - in teh long run, they just get more confused.

Its a fine distinction, but an important one - do you want to give them a quick and easy (and possibly misleading) answer, or one they may have to think about, but in the end they actually get it right?

This has nothing to do with sounding smarter or acting superior, and all to do with actually teaching people what they want to know.

 

[trog100]

i'm just saying with my experience, if you dumb it down - they get the wrong impression. You can say fake ram and they'll 'understand' quicker, but if they get the wrong idea (fake vs. substitue as i said) then you're really not helping - in teh long run, they just get more confused.

Its a fine distinction, but an important one - do you want to give them a quick and easy (and possibly misleading) answer, or one they may have to think about, but in the end they actually get it right?

This has nothing to do with sounding smarter or acting superior, and all to do with actually teaching people what they want to know.

i agree with what u say and know your intentions are good..

we just disagree on how to put across the basic principles of what can be very complicated subjects..

my approach to understanding anything is to first rip out the jargon.. convert the jargon to real words that actually mean something then have another look..

i love language and the use of it.. how it can be used both to both enlighten or confuse..

i quite often have to learn new things.. the hardest part is deciphering the jargon.. once thats done what seemed a very complicated subject aint so complicated at all..

course the "experts" dont like my approach.. speaking in tongues is what makes them seem clever to most folks.. being human they like folks to think they are clever

virtual memory.. really does mean fake memory.. memory made up of nice fast ram and terribly slow hadrives.. and the hardive really is a very poor totally unacceptable substitute for the real stuff.. ie ram..

how slow the hardrive part is most people just dont know.. they have never seen it in action in these days of plentiful cheap ram..

the answer is simply.. make sure u have enough ram then windows wont have to resort to the terribly terribly unbelievably slow hardrive part of its virtual memory..

if the question "do i have enough ram" has to be ask.. the answer is probably "yes".. based on the simple principle that u would certainly know if u did not have enough ram..

watching your system grind to a hardrive light flashing halt aint hard to notice..

trog