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I got my new p5q-e in :D i spoke to crucial uk and the 8500 single sided tracers are apparently certified for this board,i will log out and try them in 5mins.Also i have the model number of the NEW revision tracers that are coming soon,i dont know if they are single or double sided though.Heres the model number-BL12864AL106A

EDIT-The single sided tracers seem to work in this board,they are at 1066 fine.My chip is still stock atm,i am gonna have a bash tonight.
 
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I got my new p5q-e in :D i spoke to crucial uk and the 8500 single sided tracers are apparently certified for this board,i will log out and try them in 5mins.Also i have the model number of the NEW revision tracers that are coming soon,i dont know if they are single or double sided though.Heres the model number-BL12864AL106A

EDIT-The single sided tracers seem to work in this board,they are at 1066 fine.My chip is still stock atm,i am gonna have a bash tonight.

From that model number I would guess double-sided. Purely by the last bit "106A". All the double-sided ones I've seen have 16 somewhere in the last 4 digits. Single has 8. So as it's a new revision maybe it's 106 *shrugs* could be wrong, but that's my guess.
 

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What the hell? Thats impossible I scanned my puter only like an hour before makin that post an everything was clean. You sure your not getting a false alarm? Scanners like avast! are nutorious for that.

It probably was a false positive then, cause I am using avast.:eek: Sorry dude.
 

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Now, a small update. Got my Dragons humming along @ 1088MHz 2v. Timings are a bit iffy @ 5-5-6-18, but the timings arent anything to do with the modules this P5Q Pro still has fucking terrible memory support. Or it may be something to do with me using the Maximus 2 Formula memory table, but I doubt it. M2F uses the same chipset, just has a lot more modules in its memory table. So for now, I'll have to put up with the above timings until Asus release the official 1004 BIOS so I can give that a go instead of the beta.
 

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Question.. how much voltage do you guys need for your Black Dragons at their stock frequency and timings? Kit I got said 2v on the sticker but errors.. so I go check the Geil website as 2v did seem kinda low for the kit and their site says between 1.9 - 2.4v.. not exactly very specific :wtf: right now I'm running 2.2v 800MHz 4-4-4-12 and things have settled down according to memtest for windows, but just need to know what voltage you guys need @ stock frequency and timings so I know if I should be shooting this kit back at OCuk or not.
 
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Question.. how much voltage do you guys need for your Black Dragons at their stock frequency and timings? Kit I got said 2v on the sticker but errors.. so I go check the Geil website as 2v did seem kinda low for the kit and their site says between 1.9 - 2.4v.. not exactly very specific :wtf: right now I'm running 2.2v 800MHz 4-4-4-12 and things have settled down according to memtest for windows, but just need to know what voltage you guys need @ stock frequency and timings so I know if I should be shooting this kit back at OCuk or not.

yeah ive heard there rated at upto 2.4v, but theres conflicting information regarding the black dragons and wether they are all rated at that, you shouldnt actually run them at a higher rate than they have on the sticker, if you need to to get them to run at stock clocks id probably rma or at least email support to check if they are upto the job
 

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Hmm.. only thing I can think of right now is perhaps I got some ICs that are meant for the PC8500 Dragons as Geil ran out of the ICs used on the PC6400 kits and thats why they like a bit more juice. I'll email Geil tho and see what they say.

ED - Just emailed Geil.. heres hoping 2.2v is a normal kinda voltage. Dont wanna send the kit back :cry: Even on 2v with 5-5-6-18 timings I can get the kit up to and beyond 1088MHz.
 
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Hmm.. only thing I can think of right now is perhaps I got some ICs that are meant for the PC8500 Dragons as Geil ran out of the ICs used on the PC6400 kits and thats why they like a bit more juice. I'll email Geil tho and see what they say.

mine was the opposite i couldnt hit 900 with them at any timings/voltages (i even read they were rated upto 2.4v also and tried that :eek: not for too long mind) although my own fault as it was the c5 set and i should have done some research on them before buying, but there is only reviews on the c4 set, kinda makes sense now lol
 

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Well I hope my Geil kit is alright @ 2.2v... even @ 2v with 5-5-6-18 timings I can get the kit running 95% stable @ 1088MHz+. Dont wanna send a kit back with so much potential :cry:
 
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My p5q-e has loads of ram on the qvl if thats what you mean by mem table ketxxx.

I have my chip at 400fsb/3.2ghz wit stock vcore atm,i am gonna give it a push later.These crucials seem fine in here though at 1066/5.5.5.15/2.15v
 
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Yeah I'm thinking as longs my geil stays error-free @ 2.2v at any speeds around PC8000+ its all good. Also is if testimony to how good my modded P5Q Pro BIOS is :p... I flashed the vanilla 1004 beta P5Q Pro BIOS, and what do you know? even @ 1000MHz the system wont even POST! whack in the P5Q Premium memory table and reflash.. VIOLA! booting 1100MHz :D
 

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Well I hope my Geil kit is alright @ 2.2v... even @ 2v with 5-5-6-18 timings I can get the kit running 95% stable @ 1088MHz+. Dont wanna send a kit back with so much potential :cry:

Don't worry buddy, my old Crucials took 2.2v most of thier life. I was even running them at 2.3v for a while. They were DDR2 533 4-4-4-12 sticks, 2x1gb. samsung chips
 

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I dunno what chips my Black Dragons have, their geil branded, but if the OEM happen to be Samsung who provided Geil with the ICS, that would explain the voltage. Anyway just ran memtest for Windows @ 1006MHz 5-5-5-15 @ 2.2v and all is well after a couple hours or so. Looks like all is good :cool:
 

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My p5q-e has loads of ram on the qvl if thats what you mean by mem table ketxxx.

I have my chip at 400fsb/3.2ghz wit stock vcore atm,i am gonna give it a push later.These crucials seem fine in here though at 1066/5.5.5.15/2.15v

Yup, my modded BIOS replaces the shitty memory table the P5Q Pro uses with a decent one. For me the memory table from the P5Q Premium rocks on the Pro. Has a large list of 1066 and 800MHz sticks in the QVL sections. Massive OC improvement.
 
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The pc8500 1gb/2gb black dragons are on my qvl,also the 2gb pc6400 sticks are.

I have just upgraded my bios from 0610 to 0803,seems ok.
 

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Their on the Pro QVL list as well.. but support just sucks. All fixed with the Premium mem table tho, ket is happy :D
 

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2.2v is a little high both of my kits do 800 4-4-4-12 @2.1v and 1100 5-5-5-15 ~2.2v
 

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2.2v is a tad high for 4-4-4-12 @ 800MHz yea, but the sticks also do 1006MHz @ 5-5-5-15 with the same voltage, havent tested higher yet. 2.2v is normal for PC8000+ speeds, so I'm not too worried atm. Could change tho depending what geil tech support reply with.
 
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Question.. how much voltage do you guys need for your Black Dragons at their stock frequency and timings? Kit I got said 2v on the sticker but errors.. so I go check the Geil website as 2v did seem kinda low for the kit and their site says between 1.9 - 2.4v.. not exactly very specific :wtf: right now I'm running 2.2v 800MHz 4-4-4-12 and things have settled down according to memtest for windows, but just need to know what voltage you guys need @ stock frequency and timings so I know if I should be shooting this kit back at OCuk or not.

voltage ratings include amd platforms. with the buitl in memory controler I've found that on amd platforms you need less voltage to hit tighter timings. on intel you need more voltage for tighter timings but tighter timigns impact performance much less.

overall I don't mind placing large amounts of voltage through my gskill, cause if I fry them, I have an excuse to get the 2x2gb 1066 kit.
 

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These Black Dragons don't like more than 2.2-2.3v, and the max I found to be around the 1020MHz mark error-free. Waiting for W1z to update spdtool for P45 boards so I can refine memory timings to make them work at higher frequencies.
 

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I'll be trying to put the Dragons through their paces a bit later today. Just hope this P5Q Pro likes the Dragons better than the OCZ kit.. should do, I injected the Maximus II Formula memory table into the P5Q Pro BIOS :D

man ket im so jealous i was wondering something? is their a way you could take my bios and go pro with it? added stuff etc?
 

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Maybe.. if its an AMI BIOS. An that chik in ur pic, that better be who ur goin out with atm, shes pretty hot. :cool:
 

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Maybe.. if its an AMI BIOS. An that chik in ur pic, that better be who ur goin out with atm, shes pretty hot. :cool:

she's hot without the pretty clothes too ;) thank you
 
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