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Engineering Sample Of AMD Steamroller Based APU Spotted

Discussion in 'News' started by Over_Lord, Jul 8, 2013.

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Do you think Steamroller will be a game changer?

  1. Looks like it will

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  2. AMD is incapable of such a feat

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  3. I hope so, I'm an AMD fan

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  1. Frick

    Frick Fishfaced Nincompoop

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    Anyone can answer that. He is a fanboy.
     
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    whelp, i missed that part. they moved kabini and temash to TSMC, but not their main chips it appears...
     
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    Wrong! Coz From WCCF Tech article every first paragraph:
    ~ You even linked to that article, :rolleyes:
     
  4. theoneandonlymrk

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    Glo fo are probably busy enough on ms and sony lines and no ones making 20nm useable this quarter, it is interesting watching the main competitors to intel in both fab and chip ip terms and how much they arse around to get competitive chips out.
    No one bar ibm has much chance of catching Intel on the node front but it is surprising how well they are all still doing with nodes nearly twice the size of intels best.

    Ot the gpu has an interesting title 1036 (;) post bin maybe)sorry 1304 could that be an ass kicking shader count??.
     
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    Intel is not using actual 22nm. Their marketing team wins again!
     
  6. drdeathx

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    ??? On the APU side AMD wins in CPU performance overall against Intel's i3's. That is the apple to apple comparison. Steam roller will improve and still be better than Haswell's i3's.
     
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    yes i am, but yeah, look at his posts.
     
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    Where in the news article do you see any kind of bias? Keep on topic, instead of going into this childish fanboy finger pointing that holds no relevance to the article.

    Thanks.
     
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  9. theoneandonlymrk

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    I said no one else is ,not that intel are afaik intel are at 14 nm but im not 100% sure which chips are finfet I assumed they all were but np I was sharing a thought :) mostly a hope to see a decent apu with mainstream gameing gpu and possibly later on an 8 core
     
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    Intel 22-nm Ivy Bridge/Haswell, CPP 90-nm/M1 90-nm
    TSMC 28-nm Jaguar & Steamroller, CPP Unknown-nm/M1 90-nm

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    Jaguar & Steamroller are on the same node to reduce costs.
     
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    Engineering Samples are typically clocked fairly low, iirc, since they're worried about bugs due to the architecture/process and ramping up frequencies can easily be done later.
     
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    It's only got a 35w TDP 2.3ghz might just be were that falls into the scaling.
     
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    AMD Eng Sample ZM232263C4450_32/23/16_9900 [Family 21 Model 16 Stepping 0]
    AMD Eng Sample 2M186092H4467_23/18/12/05_1304 [Family 21 Model 48 Stepping 0]

    Trinity 35W Engineer Sample: (Bulldozer rules, Burst Mode/HFM/Northbridge)
    2.3 GHz -> 3.2 GHz
    Kaveri 35W Engineer Sample: (Jaguar rules, Burst Mode/HFM/LFM/GPU)
    1.2 GHz -> 1.8 GHz / 2.3 GHz(Single Module Burst)

    Trinity:
    Identifier -> Z
    Segment -> M
    Model -> 2322
    Roadmap -> 63
    Package -> C
    Cores -> 4
    Cache Size -> 4
    Part Definition -> 50

    When tested it produced 4 logical threads/one thread per core.

    Kaveri:
    Identifier -> 2
    Segment -> M
    Model -> 1860
    Roadmap -> 92
    Package -> H
    Cores -> 4
    Cache Size -> 4
    Part Definition -> 67

    When tested it produced 4 logical threads/one thread per core.
     
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    But wouldnt you like to see it compete with I5/I7/FX on a CPU level PLUS have the nice on board GPU :) Imagine a FX 8350 with the 7660D :)
     
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    I would but most persons who buy these chips use a dedicated GPU anyway. Makes no sense to me to take die space for a GPU on these chips
     
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    hence FX,
     
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    So steamroller will be 15% more performance then the current Piledriver, thats not to bad i guess, not as high as i was expecting, but should bring it up pretty close to intel?
     
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    the IGP takes up space and adds heat. great for low heat products, not great for high end ones unless you want 200W coolers.
     
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    Piledriver does this already check it out.
    http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i7-965-vs-AMD-FX-8350

    As for a 95w part no chance maybe the lower SKU, but AMD is gonna need that higher TDP to be keep competitive. All the 8-core's thus far have been 125w.
     
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    The 965 turbo to 3.46Ghz in single thread. The 8350 turbo to 4.2Ghz. Clock for clock Bloomfield still has the advantage but AMD makes up with clockspeed (as in this case).

    What I meant is that Steamroller should catch up in clock for clock performance with Bloomfield, although maybe Clarkdale is going to be a better match. You can do just so much maintaining the same socket for four generations.
     
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    ?? Ummm Piledriver keeps up with IvyBridge....(not far off) where do you guys get Bloomfield or Clarksdale out of this?
     
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    With all its cores. He is talking strait ipc clock for clock.
     
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    According to my calculations here the Trinty IPC is way behind Nehalem's.
    In Phenom II era Deneb has ~10% less IPC compared to Wolfdale/Yorkfield. Compared to Nehalem, haves ~35% IPC. Only Llano tied Wolfdale/Yorkfield IPC. Anyway a 20% AVG boost(over Trinty) in STR IPC can make AMD cpus much more competitive on X86 market.
     

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