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EVGA GTX 780 Ti SuperClocked w/ ACX Cooler 3072 MB

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  1. Steevo

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    So the fact the real thermal output is the same has no bearing in your post shows you have no understanding of thermal load and cooling, or just a rabid fanboi to even bring it up in a unrelated competitive thread.

    Good work captain.


    I am more interested in the efficiency loss of the overclock, only 9.9% despite both core and memory increase of 12% Is it at the point o diminishing returns or what is at play?
     
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    Duh, of course I know that two cards are faster than one and of course a lost of Sli drivers are bad. I know all that (Farcry 3 crap Sli performance and freeze ups is a testament to that) what I'm referring to is this.

    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?...772.1073741830.117293321684748&type=1&theater

    Well maybe you can consider Gtx 770's 4GB in Sli. A 7970 Xfire setup works really well too. Yes I know that $400 or $500 is a steep price even for a commodity and that value wise 2 7970's/R9 280X are a really good option nowadays and they scale really well over multi monitor setups so 2 thumbs up to your rig. In the matter of the GTX 780 well I kinda like the performance and this is what works for me. I might try to get a second one not because I particularly like multi card setups but it's cool to have some extra power for future proofing. The 780 Ti would interest me if I didn't have a GTX 780 already since in my opinion it is the best card for single card configurations available today with the exception of its price (Yes the 290x does really well too but I would have to go with aftermarket cooling which in and of itself would lessen the value crown. If AMD's partners come up with some nice aftermarket solutions (XFX Ghost, Msi Lightning, ASUS Direct Cu, Gigabyte Winforce) for an reasonable price then I could sell of and go back to AMD for a while until the next real upgrade comes around.
     
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    Well maybe you can consider Gtx 770's 4GB in Sli. A 7970 Xfire setup works really well too. Yes I know that $400 or $500 is a steep price even for a commodity and that value wise 2 7970's/R9 280X are a really good option nowadays and they scale really well over multi monitor setups so 2 thumbs up to your rig. In the matter of the GTX 780 well I kinda like the performance and this is what works for me. I might try to get a second one not because I particularly like multi card setups but it's cool to have some extra power for future proofing. The 780 Ti would interest me if I didn't have a GTX 780 already since in my opinion it is the best card for single card configurations available today with the exception of its price (Yes the 290x does really well too but I would have to go with aftermarket cooling which in and of itself would lessen the value crown. If AMD's partners come up with some nice aftermarket solutions (XFX Ghost, Msi Lightning, ASUS Direct Cu, Gigabyte Winforce) for an reasonable price then I could sell of and go back to AMD for a while until the next real upgrade comes around.
     
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    Well it is what you said so you can't blame someone for replying to that and there was no link in that post to clarify. :)

    Looking at that comparative graph, I can see that the 780 Ti SLI does worse than the 780 SLI, which it obviously shouldn't do. This is obviously a driver or game glitch that I would expect to be ironed out in short order.

    Mind you, it's a bit annoying when you just wanna play your game and you have to put up with this, isn't it? Knowing that it'll be fixed "soon" isn't all that comforting at that moment.
     
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    Diminishing returns. This chip has reached it. I want to see what they have next.
     
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    Well, we may be seeing diminishing returns, but those graphs clearly look like a driver/game issue as it's obvious that the Ti should be faster.

    I'm keen to see what Maxwell can bring and makes me wonder if I should sit out the 780 Ti since it's very expensive and my 580s are plenty powerful.
     
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    This GPU still has a lot to give for who is willing to give it what it's necessary, voltage.

    This thing will literally fly with a classified/lightning PCB.

    Take a look at this review, it will give you an idea of how much GK110 scales with voltage

    http://www.overclockers.com/evga-gtx780-classified-hydro-copper-waterblock-review
     
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    Not voltage, Intel tried that with P4, and it needed 4-5Ghz clocks to reach what they thought was possible and still failed. I am as much concerned with IPC as with pure speed, and what I was referring to is the drop of efficient work done in relation to the core speed increase.

    Good job on relying on only voltage and core speed, that helps in the "290X requires too much power" argument.

    I am interested in the push for performance efficiency that AMD brought to the table with the die size/speed of the 290. It has a high thermal load for the die size, but not for the work done at speed, so we can infer the efficiency of the shaders is at least 25% higher than what Nvidia has in this die. Imagine what would happen with this die size, shrunk to 20nm and as efficient per transistor in IPC? We are talking about a 50% increase in computational performance. I hope they get Maxwell out soon and its what I believe it could be.
     
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    To be fair I never complained about 290x power consumption, high end shouldn't care about it.

    I only praised that card while whining about the cooler itself.

    In fact I run my GPUs at 1.35v which make my custom bios hover at 500w for each card :)

    Performance comes at a price after certain thresholds :toast:
     
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    Yes, that design efficiency is interesting. I'm keen to see what a 290x can do with a proper aftermarket cooler.
     
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    Too bad we won't see aftermarket cooler 290x until December. I guess that's because it's hard to cool all VRMs properly without blowout cooler so they need time to engineer the cooling system. People who replaced stock cooler with Arctic cooling's or Gelid's solution had to run fans at molex directly to be able to OC and keep VRMs under 80C.
     
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    It's probably going to be like my FPS increase when I overclocked, 20-35% gains across the board.
     
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    Look what i got in the mail today :D.

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    Nice :rockout:

    Now get benching!
     
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    I'm getting these frames on bioshock infinite on max on 2560x1440 frames only drop as low as 50 when it auto saves.

    Frames: 111498 - Time: 1124657ms - Avg: 99.140 - Min: 50 - Max: 130
     
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    uuumm.. mini itx with beast card. love that
     
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    I think the delay for the 290x aftermarket cooler is because the card is pushed so hard and so hot already, that it won't be nearly as easy to work with as the 780 ti.
     
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    These ACX cards are perfect... I was fan of reference cards before ACX.
    Biggest reason is because from side panel ACX models look incredible nice... Cards with heat pipes on side I don't like to see in my PC.
    Several years no one didn't remember to make some simple and nice clean dual cooler cards as this. Over 10 manufacturer bot from AMD and NVIDIA.
    All of them in race who will make weirdest, biggest metal shape and cooler.
    Now we have and visual and nice temps and silent card.
     

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