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Discussion in 'Networking & Security' started by stayplation3, May 27, 2012.

  1. stayplation3

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    i used a program to find the best dns server thats free for me to use. but just like virtual private servers, is there a way to buy a private dns server? i want the fastest dns as possible. im willing to pay for it
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    What do you need a superfast DNS server for?
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    maybe to bypass blocking of websites.
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    You mean like a paid proxy ? I doubt you can get much of an improvement over services like opendns or google dns. I`m currently using comodo secure dns
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    when i use a good dns it makes it so theres almost no lag in call of duty on the ps3
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    I think you might be confused on exactly what a DNS server is used for. If you are not confused, my sincerest apologies.
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    I'm not sure it's the speed of the DNS server so much as maybe a different route to the destination tht is less congested or has fatter pipes.

    Unless the DNS server(s) are overloaded wherever he's at.
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    yes thats what i mean i want a super low ping idc how much bandwidth the server has but if 38ms is my best so far im sure theres one i can find thats less than 10ms i just dont know where to look
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    The DNS has nothing to do with lag in games.
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    38 is pretty much the best case scenario. Hell, you are probably in the top 2% with that ping.

    I consider anything below 70 excellent latency.

    I can also tell you that less than 10 is quite impossible unless you are just nodes away in the same city of the server.
  11. stayplation3

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    then why do so many people change to a better dns for less lag in games?

    [​IMG]
    ^yet i get 75-300ms in mmorpgs and shooter that are hosted in the same location as the speed test. when others get lower pings than me. what can i do besides get a better dns?
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    They are idiots and don't understand what a DNS does?

    The only thing your DNS does is translate a domain name into an IP address so your computer can communicate with the server at that IP address. So when you type in www.techpowerup.com, your computer queries the DNS server for www.techpowerup.com, and the DNS server tells your computer 208.43.3.154. At this point you are done with the DNS server, it does nothing else. Then your computer uses 208.43.3.154 to talk to the server.

    Here, this is what happens to ping when you change your DNS to two very different DNS servers. The first is my ISP's DNS server which is extremely fast for me, the other is Googles's which is a lot slower:
    [​IMG]

    Notice how average ping is basically unchanged?
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    Never heard of this. I change to different DNSs because I don't trust the ones my ISP uses.

    As it so happens, my ISP DNS has failed for more than a week and no one who doesnt know how to change their DNS in this area has internet currently.

    use google:
    8.8.8.8
    8.8.4.4
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    Great IT team at your ISP 3870 :rolleyes:
    Probably just need to clear the cache and let it rebuild. lol
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    no it drastically reduces lag in shooters like cod on the ps3. go change the dns on ur ps3 or xbox and play cod and you will notice a huge difference with almost no lag at all.
    but back to my question. does any1 know where to get a good dns? maybe my own?
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    Thinking the same thing. If I were to guess, they had larger issues at hand, and blocked the DNS to reduce traffic.

    The only alternative is that their network techs really don't know what they are doing.
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    no1 knows? :(
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    I know more than the network techs at my ISP.
    That being said, I help them troubleshoot problems when I can.

    Sorry Stayplation, I think that choosing a good DNS (and route) is going to be specific to your location.
    You probably want to run a trace route to the server when you change as ping isn't everything.
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    but i cant just pay for a better one? i got the best one that namebench said but i want a better one
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    I'm a network engineer, and I can tell you that is impossible. Any lag reduction you are seeing is either a placebo effect or coincidence. The DNS you use has no affect on gameplay, and the DNS server isn't even used beyond providing the IP address for the server, there is no way possible increasing how fast that happens would affect gameplay.
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    incorrect but correct
    psn/xlive use different domains to route to different servers if you change the resolver you can get routed to a different server because the p3/xbox do the lookup strictly based on dns most games wont see a effect in game-play but the connection to PSN/Xbox live could be better OR worse.
    BUT if the game using PSN/xlive servers to handel the match-making it would be possible for there to be a difference depending on what DC you get routed to but you are talking less then 50ms in most cases
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    Just my opinion, I think you're barking up the wrong tree.
    newtekie1 is correct in the assessment made.

    And, also, once your system retrieves the resolved name, it stores it in your DNS cache and uses it.
    So, basically, unless you or your system flushes the cache or the info changes, your system does not have to retrieve the resolved name from the remote DNS server.

    What is the DNS cache?
    If you wish to make a local dns server at home you can use windows server, linux, and other OSes.
    Here is some info for RedHat, however, I doubt it will help your online gaming.

    And, you may wish to do some reading up on the subject.
    Here is a start... DNS Name Server Concepts and Operation. Set aside some time, as, it is a lot of reading.

    You may just wanna do a little more testing (Gibson Research Corporation's Domain Name Speed Benchmark).
    Pick the fastest and live with it.
    You can use this to switch between DNS servers for testing or just picking the ones you like: Dns Jumper v1.0.4 by Sordum.net

    You might want to look to other avenues to improve your on-line gaming experience.
    EX: change your isp to one of better quality service, increase your speed, tweak your network settings, move, etc.

    Good luck on saving that millisecond here and there.:)
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    That is a great tool, but make sure you do the ~30 test to make a custom DNS server list first, then use it to find the fastest out of those.
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