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Finally!! Going to Water, But need some Help Picking the Parts :D

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  1. DOM

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    So wut do you think ?

    Purchased

    D-TEK FuZion Universal CPU Waterblock - 1/2"
    http://www.petrastechshop.com/dfuuncpubl1.html

    D-Tek FuZion GFX GPU Waterblock
    http://www.petrastechshop.com/dfugfxgpuwa.html

    2X Swiftech MCW30 Chipset Water-block
    http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=241&products_id=4042

    Danger Den Bay Reservoir High-Density Polyethylene
    http://www.dangerden.com/store/product.php?productid=51

    PrimoChill Radiator Xtreme Series 360
    http://www.moddersmart.com/index.php?target=products&product_id=30017

    Laing DDC w/ Petra'sTech DDCT-01s Top Combo
    http://www.petrastechshop.com/laddcwpeddto.html

    2X Alphacool Heattrap RegCooler Asus SLI
    http://www.performance-pcs.com/catalog/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=241&products_id=4519
     
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    Good luck to ya man! I'm stickin to air for now, but I'm gonna keep an eye on your project and see how well it works out...ya never know I could change my mind too!
     
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    I would definitely go for the full coverage block for your vid card, but only if you don't plan on upgrading to a DX10 card in the near future. If you do plan on going DX10, Then I say go for the universal Dangerden block.

    The DangerDen cpu waterblock you picked out performs extremely well. I would choose that and save a few dollars over the petra part.

    The petra pump has better specs than the Dangerden part. I would personally go for it.

    The radiator you picked will out perform the GTS 3x120 models, but commands quite a price premium. The GTS model will still outperform any air solution, but if you can swing the difference in price, the choice is yours. I would get the GTS and save myself some money for something else down the road, personally.

    If you get the universal GPU block, don't forget you need something to cool you card's ram. Also, double check to make sure the chipset blocks won't interfere with your video card.

    Well, those are my opinions. Good luck with your build.
     
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    Definitely buy from Petra's shop...one of the best etailers when talking about water cooling. Second, go with the Fusion block, the other DD TDX Block is a value mainstream performance block, while the D-tek Fusion is one of the best water blocks at the moment. The Laing D5 pump is a must when watercooling(good choice), here's the link:http://www.petrastechshop.com/swmcin12pu.html. The DDC-12V REV2 would not be enough for a triple radiator+CPU+chipset and VGA combo. Your choice of black ice GTX 360 radiator is accurate. The video card water block is up to your personal needs. I would prefer to use the maze5 or swiftech's MCW60 because they can be mounted on multiple video cards including the 8800 series with optional mounting kits. The EK-FCX1900 Full Cover waterblock will fit only on X1800/X1900 series....
     
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    Updated List... Well decided to go with the 12V DD-D5 Pump,{its the same as in Petras-Tech-Shop} right? just wanna make sure :D

    And to go with the MAZE5-GPU Block as its less and cuz theres no point to waste $125+ for just one card thats going to get replaced later down the line :ohwell:

    And D-TEK FuZion Universal CPU Waterblock - 1/2"

    But is the ThermoChill HE120.3 a better Rat the then Black Ice GTX360 ??
    http://www.dangerden.com/store/product.php?productid=46&cat=77&page=1
     
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    Thermochill is the king of watercooling radiators. You better look at the PA series though: http://www.dangerden.com/store/product.php?productid=205&cat=15&page=1, since the HE series are discontinued. The Thermochill PA series are optimized to work with 100CFM+ fans...so if you seek the ultimate performance radiator and the noise from your fans is not a problem(and the $140 for the radiator itself of course) go for Thermochill. If you prefer quiet watercooling system stick with the Black Ice GTX. And finally....you won't notice any significant difference between the PA series and the GTX because of your system heat load. If you go quad-core and dual 8800 series than you'll see the difference when it comes to the radiator. ;)
     
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    :laugh: Have you seen my specs on the fans, Cuz would the Thermaltake's Thunderblade 120mm blue-LED work with that Rat.?
     
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    Every 120mm fan will fit the Thermochill radiator just fine, but you'll obtain maximum performance only with high CFM fans like I said in my last post. Most suitable fans for the Thermochill PA Series: http://www.petrastechshop.com/12yalod1cafa1.html 70CFM/33dBA
     
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    well there 78 CFM but PA Series - optimised for fans upto 100CFM and the HE Series - optimised for fans above 100CFM

    well thats is I can find one :( cuz how much is £48.50 in US $
     
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    1 UK£ = 1.9695 U.S. dollars, 48.50x1.97~96$
     
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    Pump --> http://www.petrastechshop.com/laddcwpeddto.html

    GPU --> http://www.petrastechshop.com/ekfucowafora.html

    Res. --> http://www.frozencpu.com/products/2...al_Reservoir_-_ALUMINUM_500691.html?tl=g30c97 or http://www.frozencpu.com/products/5...ingle_35_Bay_Reservoir_-_CLEAR.html?tl=g30c97
    (I'm sure you will hate that ugly DD thing one day and buy some new one, so just save the money for it..)

    That is what i would buy, instead of ur choise. ;)

    @Radiator

    If u take the Thermochill PA120.3 you will need a lot of space, bcs. of the shroud, but the performance is really great! But i think i would still prefer the GTX360.
     
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    Well I wanted a Full block for the card, but its just going to get replaced later you know, so I dont want to invest on something thats going to go to waste that cost more.

    and on the Res. :roll: I know its UGLY but I was going to Paint it BLK. ;)

    and that pump is it better then the one above?? IDK anything about them
     
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    Imho it is better yes! 1. u have 3/8" thread on it, so u can choose which fittings u want to use(same thing counts for an other reservoir too!) 2. it is designed for watercooling systems 3. u have 10W less heat from it over the other Laing 3. it looks much better and it is smaller :)
     
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    well I'll change the Pump and theres two 3's lol

    and the 3's are you talking about the pump :confused:

    and i'll look for another RES.

    oh yea do you know which RAT. is the next best one to the 360GTX thats less , or is the price worth it compared to the GTS etc.
     
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    Ups.. :D Yes both 3s are for the pump.

    I use some of this radiators: http://www.moddersmart.com/index.php?target=products&product_id=30017. A lot of resellers use this radiator, normally it is build by Magicool(http://www.magicool.biz/Magicool/RadiatorsST.html), the performance is between the Black Ices and Thermochill.
     
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    I just looked at the review on the pump from xtremesystems that top makes it better then the stock http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=117215

    That Rat. is it better then the GTX if so then i'll get one, cuz im not going to find any Thermochill and it will same me some cash
     
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    I'm using a modded Alphacool top, this pump is really great. :)

    Imho yes, but i did not tested it by myself, a german pc-magazin called hardwareluxx printed wrote that. I really like the radiators, nothing bad to say. I use 1 x 360 and 1 x 120 and my temps are really good.
     
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    well I saw you have that 1X120 Rat.:(

    but on that Mag. was it just that the only Rat. tested ? or which other ones where tested or compared to with there results ?

    did you ever just runed with the 1X360 ?


    what about this Res.
    http://www.performance-pcs.com/cata...ucts_id=2581:af29c1ddcbaa6c3feaa12cd1cc6ed435
     
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    They wrote about all 3 sizes of the radiators, but there are no numbers to compare with other radiators in this quick "review", they just wrote down the performance in words. I tis your decision.. I think they are equal to the Black Ice stuff, but i'm not sure about that..

    With 3 x 120mm fans on 1200rpm the delta k was 5,6k on the testsystem they used, but i do not know which system it is.. In the older release of the mag. they tested the other radiators, but i don't have this one.. :(
     
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    The reviews aren't on the website, printed exclusiv. ;)
     
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    DOM_ATI_X800XL_PCI-E don't worry about the performance of each radiator. Adding an aditional 1x120mm radiator to a system like yours won't do much. The basics of watercooling aren't like the good air cooling. Another heatpipe(radiator)=lower temps...in watercooling it depends on your system heat load. Every triple 120mm radiator can easily cool a system with even SLI graphics(I'm starting to repeat myself). With an additional radiator....all you'll do is just make your system more restrictive, temps won't drop much, maybe at all.

    The PrimoChill radiators, which funklix suggested are good, but they're based(the same) as the old Black Ice Extreme series, so I recommend choosing once again the newer revision Black ICE GTX360. According to the manufacturer the second generation of Black ICE radiators(the GTX once) have 30% increase in internal flow rates and utilize 45% thinner fin material yielding up to 50% less pressure drop than the first generation. Go here for full details.

    About the reservoir, try to go with the Swiftech MCRES-Micro: http://www.petrastechshop.com/swmchire.html
    Your res is not a key element in the watercooling system. It'll just help you get the bubles out of the loop, so you don't need to spend 40 bucks for a res...
     
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    thanks

    But do you know which is the next best to the GTX's is it the GTS ? Stealth GTS 360 or X-Flow Stealth GTS 360

    Would you know how much better it is cuz if its not that much i'll just go for the lower to save some $$
     
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    According to hardwareluxx printed, the updated MagiCools have a better flowrate then the new Black Ices. But it is still DOM_ATI_X800XL_PCI-E choise which radiator he want. Black Ice sure is a known/good brand, but i'm sure this MagiCool stuff isn't that bad.. ;)

    My watertemps are always < 26°C, with an ambient of about 18-21°C. If he want to save some money, imho the radiator is a good choise. Time to quote you again. ;)

     
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    The Black Ice series feature two models: the GTS series and the GTX series. The GTS series are the basic radiators which are 29.6mm thick(triple 120mm radiator dimensions: 133x397x29.60 mm width/height/thickness) while the GTX series are the "extreme"(better) version with 55.7mm thickness. It's easy to see that the GTX series are the better radiators. Meanwhile the X-Flow is based on the same design but it is a single pass radiator, while the GTS and the GTX series are dual pass radiators. These days everybody uses dual pass rads in watercooling loops. Next in terms of performance after the GTX comes the Thermochill PA series...as I mentioned earlier.
     

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