Check it out check it out, just a bit of tweaking and trying to figure it out. See, my RAM is just crap, it will not run at much higher speed, it really doesn't like getting out of spec. So I played in the BIOS long enough to get the multiplier + CPU bus to make 3.8GHz that the UD3R can also divide properly for my RAM. Boom, 800MHz RAM FSB with these settings, and lookit how stable it is: Ignore the CPU speed on Orthos, I don't know what kind of crack it's been smoking. CPU-Z Validation: http://valid.canardpc.com/show_oc.php?id=560751 The CPU cooler in use here is the super duper cheap Masscool 8WA741, and it super duper cools too!