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FX 8350 or i7 4770k

Discussion in 'General Hardware' started by ANIR0X2K00L, Apr 26, 2013.

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Which will u buy for a gaming PC

  1. i7 4770k

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  2. fx 8350

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  3. wait for amd to release steamroller

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  1. ANIR0X2K00L New Member

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    I need help with this topic, i am getting a new PC and i can wait till then end of this year. The problem is that i will have to keep this PC for the next 5 to 6 years. I can spend extra to get a 4770k when it release but from what i have heard is that next gen games would run better on AMD hardware and will require more cores. I play graphically extensive games like Battlefield 3, Crysis 2, Crysis 3. I will be getting battlefield 4 so this will give u an idea of what type of games i am playing and all of these games need a good cpu to run, especially crysis 3 and possible Battlefield 4. Please just tell me that should i go with fx 8350 or the i7 4770k (when it releases in june), or should i wait for amd's steamroller or intel's broadwell. And please even list a good motherboard like asus maximus or crosshair formula motherboard or something better. I have noticed one problem that the AMD chipset i.e. 990fx dont have all the latest features.

    Any help is greatly appreciated, please understand that i dont want to make a mistake cause if i make one i will regret it for the next 5 to 6 years.
     
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    Nobody knows if next gen games will play better on AMD or Intel, it is mere speculation.
    Just because the company makes the hardware for the consoles doesnt mean they'll run the same at all, otherwise everything would be running on AMD like shit on a shovel.

    I have a 3570k and an 8350. Neither show any real world difference to me, a lot of the time they trade blows, but the Intel comes out on top by small margins in games.
    4770k will obviously perform better by small percentages.
    I'd get the Intel.
    990FX DOES have all the features, in fact you can get more SATA III 6gbps ports on an AMD board than intel for cheaper, both have USB 3.0 at comparative prices, and in terms of crossfire.sli support, both board types have those in all shapes and forms.

    It is literally down to current performance, and since we do not have graphs and random data to tell us otherwise, the 4770k is unknown, but presumed to be better than the current gen.
    Who knows what AMD will bring out, but it will evidently be similar to the Bobcat/Jaguar processors in the PS4 and Xbox, perhaps this time a genuine 8 core.

    In short, if you're in a hurry, get either 8350 or 3570k, because theyre equally good in my eyes.
    In long term, just wait for the 4770k and buy one.
     
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    the i7 will be cooler and more power efficient, and the amd will be more powerful though i doubt the difference will be so great that you'll notice. the graphics card is much more important, as is the mobo and it's features. so i'd go with those first and then pick the chip that fits what you want.
     
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    Couldnt agree more. GPU is the biggie, processors are just a giant clusterfuck of synthetic benchmarks at the moment...
     
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    there wont be any difference in gaming. if you just plan on gaming, i would suggest a FX6300, and a really beefy graphics card.
     
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    Then maybe come back later when Haswell will be launched and AMD might come up with something. You'll definitely want to wait for the next generation of GPUs.
     
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    So till now u guys are suggesting that if i want to do gaming and other stuff like after effects, sony vegas and recording gameplay (battlefield 3, crysis 3) for a more future proof, efficient, cooler, faster solution i should go with the i7 4770k. Should i wait for broadwell or whatever amd comes up with?

    And which motherboard to buy, i was thinking of getting either an Asus Maximus V Formula or an MSI z77 big bang, obviously i go will go with whatever comes for haswell, i guess the chipset would be z87. Is there any other range of motherboards that i should buy? And one last question, should i go with the lower end of the intel extreme platform i.e. x79 something like a 3820 or the 4820 if thats the successor?
     
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    for those i would suggest a 8350. proper 8 core or not, it will help a lot!
     
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    You should wait for haswell since its around the corner,but dont wait for broadwell since if you go for the waiting game you will wait forever,the best option IMO is a 4770k,the only advantage the 4820 will have is quad channel memory but it will be slower clock for clock and you will have sufficient bandwidth with duel channel anyhow.
     
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    fuck the haters and go overkill!

    get the 4770k, 8350 serves its purpose well but why choose between something about to be updated and something updated.

    ive heard theres an 8550fx or something coming soon and garuanteed there will be more. same as intel .

    4770k plus tri fire or tri sli, last ya years and years
     
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    The 8350 does have better value than the i7 but if you can afford it you should get the 4770k.
     
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    it's for gaming, so definately FX 8350
     
  13. NdMk2o1o

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    All the reviews I have seen show Intel i5/i7 being ahead by a good margin compared to the 8350 in gaming, has something changed?

    http://www.anandtech.com/show/6396/the-vishera-review-amd-fx8350-fx8320-fx6300-and-fx4300-tested/5

    http://www.xbitlabs.com/articles/cpu/display/amd-fx-8350_6.html#sect0

    http://www.computerbase.de/artikel/prozessoren/2012/test-amd-fx-8350-vishera/6/


    We don't know how the 4770k will stack up to AMD in encoding though am willing to bet it will match if not beat it in most tests. However gaming alone it should be 20% faster.
     
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    get what is cheaper, and when hasswell came out upgrade to that one :)
     
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    Why get what is cheaper if his budget will allow him to have what is best performance? Also if he gets the cheapest option he will have to buy a new motherboard and processor for haswell as 8350 is definately the cheaper option..
     
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    definitely, hasnt anyone said its cheaper to buy once than twice!!
     
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    I suppose this may have some influence:) : http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-future-proofing-your-pc-for-next-gen
     
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    4770k
     
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    8350 without the least hesitation. Price-performance-upgradeability combined=unbeatable!
     
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    You can't base yourself on speculations about AMD performing better cause next gen console is made by AMD. Thats just wrong. The intel CPUs have 4 cores but they have HT plus they are better than AMD clock-for-clock and both can overclock well.

    You also cannot know if AMD is once again gonna fail with their next CPU that matches the socket of the 8350, as bulldozer was a failure.

    Finally, we only have rumors of Intel's pricing on the new CPUs, while obviously the vendors will keep a larger profit margin the first months. Therefore I expect the 4770K+motherboard to be considerably more expensive than the AMD 8350 system. My opinion is that if you have the money you should go for the new i7 CPUs a few months after they are out. You are asking if you should wait for Broadwell etc... well you can always play the waiting game but it is always the same result: at that time you will be wondering if you should wait for what comes after Broadwell...
     
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    That depends on your workload. Single threaded does great on Intel but your IPC starts dropping like a fly as soon as your start using HT cores. At least AMD gives you almost linearly consistent performance across all of its cores, so it doesn't drop off much faster once you start using more than 4 cores like the i7 does.

    Any application that fully utilizes the resources of a 3770k or a 8350 will find that the 8350 will pull ahead in most cases (they tend to be integer cases, if FP isn't optimized with FMA,) and that is only because HT is slow because it's using spare resources as opposed to dedicated resouces in AMD's chips (sans FP unit, but that's a different argument because of how it works). If you're only gaming, Intel is the better option and if you want a boost in multi-threaded performance an i7 will fit the bill nicely, but if you're regularly going to be using software that knows how to use 8 cores, go with the 8350. It will cost less and will get the same amount of work if not more done.

    So make your decision based on workload. More often than not, if you need more than an i5, the 8350 probably will be acceptable because anyone who needs an i7 with that kind of ability to thread should work nicely on the 8350 as well. I would consider the i7 an indulgence more than anything else.
     
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    I was thinking of waiting for broadwell cause it has 14nm and realize that then i should wait for skylake as it would support ddr4 and i realized its a never ending game. I currently have an hd 7950 and still i cant play battlefield 3 cause i have a core 2 duo e7400. And i have thought that even if next gen games require more cores and i7 is a safer bet than i5 and fx 8350 cause it has the high single thread performance of intel and 8 threads like the 8350 and i do have the money to get the 4770k (keep in mind its almost 50% more expensive in my country) and i cant go any higher due to the high costs. I have to keep this system for the next 5 years so i dont mind spending extra.
     
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    The 7950 is a pretty high end card, I would keep everything the same and find a second hand Quad Core Q9xxx series. Should be more than enough for BF3. I'm running it maxed out on an Athlon II X4 620 so a Q9xxx series would be fine for a cheap upgrade.
     
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    Lol didn't know that...

    yeah I've been thinking about upgrading too, as i got an i7 930 at 4ghz but would like something newer mostly because of the higher overclocks achievable with watercooling (near 5ghz). I'm most probably going for 4770k if the price is not too high and they OC well. If, as you say, the 4770k woud be 50% more expensive (you didn't specify what so i can assume u either compare to the price in another country or the price of the 8350 at your seller), then I would really consider the 8350 if it is "normally" priced.
     
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