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***G3258 Owners*** - Windows 10 will not install/boot when overclocked

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Just a heads up for anyone who currently owns a Pentium G3258 based system. If overclocked, your system will not install or boot into the release build of Windows 10.

You can boot/install with only 1 core activated overclocked or with both at default speed (3.2Ghz) but due to a microcode update recently this bug is restricting the full potential of this chip when using Windows 10.

I was literally tearing my hair out for the past week on this when thought I would try installing the latest/final build. I had previously tried Windows 10 when they first released the preview builds and it ran well if a little buggy as they developed it, so was really confused as to why it would just boot loop on a new install. I reset my machine to default bios settings and it worked so I thought maybe my OC was unstable (shouldn't be as it's been flawless on 8.1) or that my low end board just had compatability issues with Windows 10, then I stumbled across these threads yesterday -

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/...e/2b8ba9bd-24e4-4b4a-8d39-abc738a3dec5?auth=1

https://communities.intel.com/thread/77391

https://social.technet.microsoft.co...tel-g3258-processor?forum=WinPreview2014Setup

and there are more but you get the gist.

Hopefully they will release an update soon as these chips were released to be overclocked and running at stock, although still relatively capable, is still quite crippling on certain games/applications.

Hope that helps anybody who may have been scratching their head like I was :)
 
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Really, explains why I couldn't upgrade from my previous build (10130) to RTM. Unfortunately did a downgrade & now that build will not upgrade to anything newer, I say FU M$ & Intel :mad:
Was looking for some explanation for almost a month now, seems like 'tis Wintel's fault after all o_O
 
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I'm sure they will sort it, although they have been aware of the issue for a little while now. Would be nice to get back up to my regular overclock.
 
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This is why I wait
The problem isn't clear from what I read. Some are even saying its happening in 7 and 8 after update KB3064209 which I know is not the case. Mine are working fine
 

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This is why I wait
The problem isn't clear from what I read. Some are even saying its happening in 7 and 8 after update KB3064209 which I know is not the case. Mine are working fine

My exp was different, KB3064209 completely borked my Win7 Pro Install and had me stumped for a good minute as to what was causing the PC to fail to boot after Windows Update. Everything working 100% on my G3258 after disabling that update.
 
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This is why I wait
The problem isn't clear from what I read. Some are even saying its happening in 7 and 8 after update KB3064209 which I know is not the case. Mine are working fine

Yes , same here. Worked perfectly in 7 and 8.1 but had issues with 10. I'm just running 10 at stock for the moment, it's playing what I need it to but no one buys a g3258 to run at stock lol :)

The problem with 10 is that the update is integrated and can not be removed.
 
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Ill double check some stuff tomorrow
 
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This is why I wait
The problem isn't clear from what I read. Some are even saying its happening in 7 and 8 after update KB3064209 which I know is not the case. Mine are working fine
Can you say the same about users who preorder games or buy 970 just to find out it has ~3.5GB VRAM, many on this forum do both regularly :shadedshu:

Also the second point is not true either, see this ~
Recent Windows Update KB3064209 causes Windows 7 to not boot - Windows 7 Help Forums

My point being as an enthusiast you try out bleeding edge stuff & sometimes get fcuked up in the process, however this issue has not been resolved for a while now & I wonder why that is :confused:
 
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My understanding is that W10 needs Processors with a certain instruction set, which the G3258 does not have. (it only has SSE4.1/4.2)
This is not to say W10 will not run, but that it might not run to it's full potential.
 
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I just update from windows 8.1 to window 10. It looks fine to me, I have yet to fully test it out. I did my update with my G3258 overclock and without turning it back to default. Windows 10 feels fast and look very different. The only downside so far I found it takes me awhile to log in from the welcome screen. I am using a biostar z97we motherboard for my G3258 though

windows 10 successful 2.png
 
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Interesting and thanks for sharing that...perhaps board manufacturers just need to issue updated bios?

Is your bios fully updated?
 
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Interesting and thanks for sharing that...perhaps board manufacturers just need to issue updated bios?

Is your bios fully updated?

I have not updated my bios yet, it is still the year 2014 bios. I have not run into major issues for my upgrade thus far. My windows 8.1 install is a uefi install so my windows 10 upgrade is a uefi boot rather than legacy bios, not sure if that would affect anything.


I am not certain what could be the issue it could be from which operating system you are updating from such as windows 7 or 8.1. Perhaps a clean install of windows 10 can eliminate that if that were the problem.
If a clean install does not work the problem could be an intel microcode update that have crippled the overclocking. Is your board a Z-series board? I heard concern before about people having that intel may take away the functionality overclock on non-over clocking boards which are not intended to be overclock with an update before. I am not sure if that is the case here.
 
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My understanding is that W10 needs Processors with a certain instruction set, which the G3258 does not have. (it only has SSE4.1/4.2)
This is not to say W10 will not run, but that it might not run to it's full potential.

That's a separate issue. I've run Windows 10 RTM on as early as a Core 2 duo with full overclocking support.

This is a microcode update issue from what I can tell.
 
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Yeh it's just a microcode issue.... gonna play the waiting the game as it has been reported. 3.2Ghz dual still runs semi ok on 10 so I'm not too stressed just a bit annoyed that they haven't resolved it before release.
 
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Okay so I checked Update KB3064209 is not an Important security update which explains why I have had no issue. Its optional and I do not install these.

So I have no issue with W7 running the G3258 at 4.4Ghz
 

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Windows 10 just borked my bios some how. I know that sounds stupid but I have been perfectly stable for a long time since windows 7/8/8.1 but when I installed windows 10 it rebooted and started the install then BSOD. Ever since then my bios refuses to OC my ram back to what it was. Anything other than stock clocks I get the failed notice when I boot. NEVER had this issue before until tonight installing windows 10
 
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Okay so I checked Update KB3064209 is not an Important security update which explains why I have had no issue. Its optional and I do not install these.

So I have no issue with W7 running the G3258 at 4.4Ghz

Even when I install that update, Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 both boot overclocked for myself, just Windows 10 that doesn't. PITA....but nothing a new build won't sort :)
 
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Yea I didn't even try
 

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Hello everybody,


I'm just a gamer not really a computer engineer, but I think that I've found a fix for this annoying situation, seems that the problem remains only during boot and not inside W10 itself, so to be able to use windows 10 with an overclocked G3258 u just need to select


1 x core “msconfig” Boot Advanced Options

Windows will normally boot probably a little bit more slow but then inside the OS, we will have both cores activated and overclocked.


I hope it helps
 
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I just tried it, didn't work unfortunately.
 

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I just tried it, didn't work unfortunately.


Unfortunately you're right, Device Manager and MSI Command Center played a trick on me because both cores actually appear there and they don't when we deactivate them in the bios. After check on Task manager - Performance we clearly see that just one is active. Which bring us again for the same position we were before, definitely being a Microcode issue that we don’t have any control or access.



Well I tried :)
 
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Are you sure this isn't on purpose to stop G3258 overclocking?
 
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Are you sure this isn't on purpose to stop G3258 overclocking?

Yes, Microsoft logic....Let's celebrate 20 years of Pentium by releasing a highly overclockable chip and then basically nerf it. Nice one.
 
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